[Dtb-talk] Bookshare.org, internet archive and other automated DAISY production

[Jim Barbour]

Hey Everyone,

The challenges Robert outlines below are the same challenges we, as blind
college students, have faced for decades.  I'd love to see these
issues tackled and solved.  However, even if they aren't solved, daisy
books are a huge step forward from cassette tapes.

Automating the daisy production process is a trade off.  On the plus
side, there will be more daisy books available, since the production
process is less limited by the number of volunteers available.  On the
minus side, the quality of the markup will be limited to what can be
reliably done using automation.

I personally think that automation wins and that we should not hold up
a workable solution while search for a nearer perfect one.

Just my $.02

Jim Barbour

On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 10:53:50PM -0500, Robert Jaquiss wrote:
> Hello Greg:
> 
>     It is my opinion that DAISY books should absolutely reflect the
> structure of the original printed book. If they don't how could a
> student deal with a teacher's instructions to turn to page XX. In
> situations where a citation is needed, a reader couldn't produce a
> professionally acceptable citation. If the DAISY book is to be used
> to produce braille, proper pagination is a must. Sections and
> chapters also must be preserved.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Robert Jaquiss
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Kearney"
> <gkearney at gmail.com>
> To: "daisy group" <dmfc-ig at mail.daisy.org>; "Discussion of Digital
> Talking Books" <dtb-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 8:41 PM
> Subject: [Dtb-talk] Bookshare.org,internet archive and other
> automated DAISY production
> 
> 
> >I have been thinking of late about the various attempts to
> >generate DAISY from fully automated systems such as seems to be
> >the case at Bookshare.org, Internet Archive and some other
> >sources.
> >
> >The issue I have with these books is that their DAISY structure
> >does not reflect the printed book. In most cases that I have seen
> >the book is a single long heading level 1 with perhaps page
> >numbering in place. In many cases these page numbers are again not
> >reflective of the printed book, for example I have found books
> >with duplicate page numbers. For example where there is a page
> >number 4 in the front matter and a page number 4 in the body
> >matter.
> >
> >More troubling however is the lack of navigation to chapters and
> >other subsections of the books. This is of particular concern in
> >non-fiction text.
> >
> >Am I just being overly picky here? What do you all think?
> >
> >Gregory Kearney | Manager Accessible Media
> >Association for the Blind of WA - Guide Dogs WA
> >PO Box 101, Victoria Park WA 6979 | 61 Kitchener Ave, Victoria
> >Park WA 6100
> >Tel: 08 9311 8246 | Fax: 08 9361 8696 | www.guidedogswa.com.au
> >Tel: 307-224-4022 (North America)
> >Email: greg.kearney at guidedogswa.com.au
> >Email: gkearney at gmail.com
> >
> >
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