[Dtb-talk] The Physical Cartridges themselves?

Dornetta dornetta at gmail.com
Sun Jul 31 04:28:39 UTC 2011 

Thanks Jim I just think I'll add to my "wish list" for the technology Santa 
Claus :-)
Netta
"Just because you are blind, does not mean you lack vision"-Stevie Wonder
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Barbour" <jbar at barcore.com>
To: "Discussion of Digital Talking Books" <dtb-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 7:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Dtb-talk] The Physical Cartridges themselves?


> No, no iphone player for NLS books.
>
> Various rumors say that NLS might be working on something, but nobody
> knows if it's true nor when such a thing might be released.
>
> Jim
>
> On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 07:47:36PM -0400, Dornetta wrote:
>> Hello all:
>> I have been monitoring this convo for a while and would like to 
>> ask...does
>> NLS has a app for the iPhone?
>> I find that while enjoying books via the DTBM is a +, it becomes a 
>> nuisence
>> when travel is thrown into the mix. :-( I am saying that this is an "bad"
>> concept or thing but useing the VR Stream/DTBM vs. the iPhone allows for
>> more portibility. What a great concept if this was possible :-)
>> Netta
>> "Just because you are blind, does not mean you lack vision"-Stevie Wonder
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynn Evans" <evans-lynn at comcast.net>
>> To: "Discussion of Digital Talking Books" <dtb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 2:28 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Dtb-talk] The Physical Cartridges themselves?
>>
>>
>> >I would think NLS has a few more patrons then you do Down Under.
>> >
>> >Also you have a central location and NLS has regional libraries spread
>> >throughout the 50 states.
>> >
>> >Not only are the cartridges right protected, according to my library 
>> >here
>> >in Florida each cartridge with a book has the firmware on it for the NLS
>> >player.
>> >
>> >----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Kearney" <gkearney at gmail.com>
>> >To: "Discussion of Digital Talking Books" <dtb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> >Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 12:05 AM
>> >Subject: Re: [Dtb-talk] The Physical Cartridges themselves?
>> >
>> >
>> >>Well as I said we went a different rout here. We assigned the cartridge
>> >>to the user and not the book. We then developed software that reads the
>> >>unique serial number tied to each cartridge and then erases and lads
>> >>that users next set of books.
>> >>
>> >>This achieves several things:
>> >>
>> >>1. No book is ever "put of stock" as we do not store copies on a self
>> >>but rather on a server.
>> >>2. We need only about 2 cartridges per user this reducing the number of
>> >>cartridge required.
>> >>3. We reduce the number of packages that go out in the mails by putting
>> >>several books on a drive.
>> >>4. We no longer need a big room filled up with shelves for books.
>> >>
>> >>As a result our drives are not write protected and as of yet that has
>> >>never been an issue for us.
>> >>
>> >>Gregory Kearney | Manager Accessible Media
>> >>Association for the Blind of WA - Guide Dogs WA
>> >>PO Box 101, Victoria Park WA 6979 | 61 Kitchener Ave, Victoria Park WA
>> >>6100
>> >>Tel: 08 9311 8246 | Fax: 08 9361 8696 | www.guidedogswa.com.au
>> >>Tel: 307-224-4022 (North America)
>> >>Email: greg.kearney at guidedogswa.com.au
>> >>Email: gkearney at gmail.com
>> >>
>> >>On 30/07/2011, at 11:50 AM, Lynn Evans wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>Please allow me to chime or clang in on this subject.
>> >>>
>> >>>The cartridges are indeed flash drives in a different form that is in
>> >>>a cartridge with a big finger hole on one end and the USB connector on
>> >>>the other end.
>> >>>
>> >>>The cable used to connect a blank cartridge to the computer is a
>> >>>standard USB extension cable. The cable will be able to connect one
>> >>>end to the other end like a necklace. I have been told these cables
>> >>>can be found in the Dollar Store for you guessed it a dollar.
>> >>>
>> >>>NLS did not choose to use flash drives or even smaller flash cards
>> >>>because of the dexterity issues that some patrons would have with
>> >>>working with small objects.
>> >>>
>> >>>The use of a flash card reader along with a flash card is problematic
>> >>>at best. NLS has recommended during the BARD pilot phrase that flash
>> >>>cards not be used with the NLS digital players. Some may have reported
>> >>>some success in their use. Others have reported slow access of data
>> >>>transfer from card to player causing the player to loose its place in
>> >>>the book.
>> >>>
>> >>>It is a waist of human resources and librarian's time for them to sit
>> >>>at a computer all day erasing cartridges and then replacing the files
>> >>>with newly requested books from NLS patrons.   NLS has contracted with
>> >>>a company to load books, mass produce books and ship them out to our
>> >>>regional libraries. Like the audio cassettes the cartridges are kept
>> >>>in their blue shipping boxes ready to be pulled off the library
>> >>>shelves, affixed with the patron's address card and mailed out.   What
>> >>>would be the point of fixing the cartridges so they can not be erased
>> >>>only to have the librarians replace the books with other books on the
>> >>>same cartridge?
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Kearney" <gkearney at gmail.com>
>> >>>To: "Discussion of Digital Talking Books" <dtb-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> >>>Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 3:18 PM
>> >>>Subject: Re: [Dtb-talk] The Physical Cartridges themselves?
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>>It would be possible to build an SD card reader into the housing of
>> >>>>a NSL Drive. We have considered building such a thing but right now
>> >>>>the drives are less expensive and you have to have a really BIG
>> >>>>order to justify all the plastic production work.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Gregory Kearney | Manager Accessible Media
>> >>>>Association for the Blind of WA - Guide Dogs WA
>> >>>>PO Box 101, Victoria Park WA 6979 | 61 Kitchener Ave, Victoria Park
>> >>>>WA 6100
>> >>>>Tel: 08 9311 8246 | Fax: 08 9361 8696 | www.guidedogswa.com.au
>> >>>>Tel: 307-224-4022 (North America)
>> >>>>Email: greg.kearney at guidedogswa.com.au
>> >>>>Email: gkearney at gmail.com
>> >>>>
>> >>>>On 30/07/2011, at 1:31 AM, Eric SS wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>Paul, good question. It would be interesting.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>I was just wondering why the blank cartridges we can buy are
>> >>>>>limited to 1 or
>> >>>>>2GB. Also, why couldn't there be an empty cartridge so that we
>> >>>>>could insert
>> >>>>>an SD card of whatever capacity.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Curious minds keep us from getting work done...
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>Eric SS
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
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