[Dtb-talk] ID cards for the print disabled.

Fri Feb 22 18:40:12 UTC 2013

Hi A

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On Feb 21, 2013, at 12:25 PM, "Dan Burke" <burke.dall at gmail.com> wrote:

> I am not sure that the card will accomplish what it seeks. I believe
> the problem is more of an emotional than a functional  one - coming to
> believe that it is respectable to have dyslexia, for example.  I base
> this statement on my personal experience as  one who protested often
> about how much I could see for years, and on my 25 years or so in
> general rehab and university disability services working with lots of
> people with invisible reading disabilities.  For those with learning
> disabilities, etc., I think the card will likely remain in a wallet or
> pocket.  while it may serve as a confirmation of a print disability,
> it will not prove an affirmation that it is respectable to be who we
> are.
> 
> I know that I would not carry it - 30 years ago or now.
> Dan
> 
> 
> On 2/21/13, Greg Kearney <gkearney at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Let me answer a few of these points.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> Greg Kearney
>> Association for the Blind of Western Australia
>> 
>> On 21/02/2013, at 10:54 PM, "Hyde, David W. (ESC)"
>> <david.hyde at wcbvi.k12.wi.us> wrote:
>> 
>>> It could be useful. The caveats I would bring to the table are these.
>>> 
>>> 1. We have always resisted the idea of carrying required identification as
>>> blind or otherwise disabled persons, although that in and of itself may
>>> not be a reason for resisting the idea. The danger arises when services
>>> are refused because of the absence of such a card, e.g. having to produce
>>> an identification number to receive assistance in working with
>>> inaccessible websites, forms and or assistance in places of public
>>> accommodation.
>> 
>> While this may well be an issue. Dyslexia face a rather unique issue of
>> being unable to prove a disability even when they really need to.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> 2. The existence of a database with information on the country's disabled
>>> population could be subject to hacking which many would perceive as a risk
>>> to those whom society believes to be most vulnerable.
>> 
>> All such libraries for the blind and print disabled already maintain such
>> databases so the cards are really not any more of an issue.
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> 3. And finally, the requirement (and governments will require things) that
>>> people acquire such a card would only increase the resistance we find in
>>> those who are reticent to admit that they have a disability.
>> 
>> Unlike the NLS in the state we are not a government entity so this process
>> is not originating from government. .
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Dtb-talk [mailto:dtb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bob Boyd
>>> Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 6:10 AM
>>> To: 'Discussion of Digital Talking Books'
>>> Subject: Re: [Dtb-talk] ID cards for the print disabled.
>>> 
>>> Sounds like an excellent plan.
>>> 
>>> Bob Boyd
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Dtb-talk [mailto:dtb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Greg
>>> Kearney
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 10:12 PM
>>> To: vip-l at freelists.org (vip-l at freelists.org); Discussion of Digital
>>> Talking Books
>>> Subject: [Dtb-talk] ID cards for the print disabled.
>>> 
>>> The library service of the Association for the Blind of Western Australia
>>> is considering the idea of issuing identity cards for persons with a print
>>> disability. A sample of such a card is enclosed with this email for your
>>> review. In doing this we hope to solve several problems:
>>> 
>>> 1. The card would have the username and password to access our library
>>> system. This will assist both the holder of the card as well as libraries
>>> which might assist the holder in accessing books from our collection.
>>> 
>>> 2. By presenting the card you, the librarian or other service provider,
>>> will know that the holder of the card is lawfully entitled under the
>>> Copyright Act to obtain works restricted to the print disabled. This is
>>> particularly important where the print disability is due to dyslexia or an
>>> other non-vison related issue.
>>> 
>>> 3. The card permits service providers to identify persons with a print
>>> disability who they are not acquainted with such as when a person travels
>>> from one community to another.
>>> 
>>> 4. It provides a simple, uncomplicated method for dyslexic children and
>>> adults to be identified as such to libraries, schools and other agencies
>>> that may be required to provide copyrighted information in an alternative
>>> formats.
>>> 
>>> The card is based on the dyslexic ID cards issued in Scandinavia and would
>>> be sized to fit into a wallet. The front would have the user's name and
>>> login information to our library as well as the Braille letters LC. The
>>> back of the card would have the following information:
>>> 
>>> "The person named on the front of this card is entited under the Copyright
>>> Act Part VB Divison 3 to receive materials in an alternative format due to
>>> a print disability.
>>> (Braille, audio recordings, large print or similar electronic formats as
>>> required.)"
>>> 
>>> Along with the library's address and contact information and a QR code
>>> with the URL of the library embedded in it. Card would be issued to users
>>> of the library service of Association for the Blind of Western Australia
>>> as we establish print disability when people enrol.
>>> 
>>> The library service of Association for the Blind of Western Australia will
>>> provide services to any print disabled child or adult including those with
>>> dyslexia and other language based disorders regardless of their place of
>>> residence. Please feel free to contact us for more information.
>>> 
>>> I would invite your comments on this proposal. Thank you for your time.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Gregory Kearney | Manager Accessible Media Association for the Blind of WA
>>> - Guide Dogs WA PO Box 101, Victoria Park WA 6979 | 61 Kitchener Ave,
>>> Victoria Park WA 6100
>>> Tel: 08 9311 8246 | Fax: 08 9361 8696 | www.guidedogswa.com.au
>>> Tel: 307-224-4022 (North America)
>>> Email: greg.kearney at guidedogswa.com.au
>>> Email: gkearney at gmail.com
>>> 
>>> Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right
>>> includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek,
>>> receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless
>>> of frontiers.
>>> Article 19 of the UN Universal Declaration of Human Rights
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Gregory Kearney | Manager Accessible Media Association for the Blind of WA
>>> - Guide Dogs WA PO Box 101, Victoria Park WA 6979 | 61 Kitchener Ave,
>>> Victoria Park WA 6100
>>> Tel: 08 9311 8246 | Fax: 08 9361 8696 | www.guidedogswa.com.au
>>> Tel: 307-224-4022 (North America)
>>> Email: greg.kearney at guidedogswa.com.au
>>> Email: gkearney at gmail.com
>>> 
>>> Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right
>>> includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek,
>>> receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless
>>> of frontiers.
>>> Article 19 of the UN Universal Declaration of Human Rights
>>> 
>>> 
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