[Dtb-talk] ID cards for the print disabled.

Sat Feb 23 00:14:30 UTC 2013

In British Columbia, people with print disabilities carry a standard library
card.  Our patron profile is coded with information that gives us access to
alternate format materials.  It's extremely effective and completely
invisible to anyone but a librarian.

We also have a card that can be used as identification in the same manner
that driver's licenses are used. To get one we have to do everything a
driver must do to get a license, except pass a road test.  The card looks
almost like a driving license, except that it's clearly marked as intended
for identification and not vehicle operation.

-----Original Message-----
From: Dtb-talk [mailto:dtb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Dan Burke
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 10:25 AM
To: Discussion of Digital Talking Books
Subject: Re: [Dtb-talk] ID cards for the print disabled.

I am not sure that the card will accomplish what it seeks. I believe the
problem is more of an emotional than a functional  one - coming to believe
that it is respectable to have dyslexia, for example.  I base this statement
on my personal experience as  one who protested often about how much I could
see for years, and on my 25 years or so in general rehab and university
disability services working with lots of people with invisible reading
disabilities.  For those with learning disabilities, etc., I think the card
will likely remain in a wallet or pocket.  while it may serve as a
confirmation of a print disability, it will not prove an affirmation that it
is respectable to be who we are.

I know that I would not carry it - 30 years ago or now.
Dan

On 2/21/13, Greg Kearney <gkearney at gmail.com> wrote:
> Let me answer a few of these points.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> Greg Kearney
> Association for the Blind of Western Australia
>
> On 21/02/2013, at 10:54 PM, "Hyde, David W. (ESC)"
> <david.hyde at wcbvi.k12.wi.us> wrote:
>
>> It could be useful. The caveats I would bring to the table are these.
>>
>> 1. We have always resisted the idea of carrying required 
>> identification as blind or otherwise disabled persons, although that 
>> in and of itself may not be a reason for resisting the idea. The 
>> danger arises when services are refused because of the absence of 
>> such a card, e.g. having to produce an identification number to 
>> receive assistance in working with inaccessible websites, forms and 
>> or assistance in places of public accommodation.
>
> While this may well be an issue. Dyslexia face a rather unique issue 
> of being unable to prove a disability even when they really need to.
>
>
>
>>
>> 2. The existence of a database with information on the country's 
>> disabled population could be subject to hacking which many would 
>> perceive as a risk to those whom society believes to be most vulnerable.
>
> All such libraries for the blind and print disabled already maintain 
> such databases so the cards are really not any more of an issue.
>
>
>>
>> 3. And finally, the requirement (and governments will require things) 
>> that people acquire such a card would only increase the resistance we 
>> find in those who are reticent to admit that they have a disability.
>
> Unlike the NLS in the state we are not a government entity so this 
> process is not originating from government. .
>
>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Dtb-talk [mailto:dtb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Bob 
>> Boyd
>> Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 6:10 AM
>> To: 'Discussion of Digital Talking Books'
>> Subject: Re: [Dtb-talk] ID cards for the print disabled.
>>
>> Sounds like an excellent plan.
>>
>> Bob Boyd
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Dtb-talk [mailto:dtb-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Greg 
>> Kearney
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 10:12 PM
>> To: vip-l at freelists.org (vip-l at freelists.org); Discussion of Digital 
>> Talking Books
>> Subject: [Dtb-talk] ID cards for the print disabled.
>>
>> The library service of the Association for the Blind of Western 
>> Australia is considering the idea of issuing identity cards for 
>> persons with a print disability. A sample of such a card is enclosed 
>> with this email for your review. In doing this we hope to solve several
problems:
>>
>> 1. The card would have the username and password to access our 
>> library system. This will assist both the holder of the card as well 
>> as libraries which might assist the holder in accessing books from our
collection.
>>
>> 2. By presenting the card you, the librarian or other service 
>> provider, will know that the holder of the card is lawfully entitled 
>> under the Copyright Act to obtain works restricted to the print 
>> disabled. This is particularly important where the print disability 
>> is due to dyslexia or an other non-vison related issue.
>>
>> 3. The card permits service providers to identify persons with a 
>> print disability who they are not acquainted with such as when a 
>> person travels from one community to another.
>>
>> 4. It provides a simple, uncomplicated method for dyslexic children 
>> and adults to be identified as such to libraries, schools and other 
>> agencies that may be required to provide copyrighted information in 
>> an alternative formats.
>>
>> The card is based on the dyslexic ID cards issued in Scandinavia and 
>> would be sized to fit into a wallet. The front would have the user's 
>> name and login information to our library as well as the Braille 
>> letters LC. The back of the card would have the following information:
>>
>> "The person named on the front of this card is entited under the 
>> Copyright Act Part VB Divison 3 to receive materials in an 
>> alternative format due to a print disability.
>> (Braille, audio recordings, large print or similar electronic formats 
>> as required.)"
>>
>> Along with the library's address and contact information and a QR 
>> code with the URL of the library embedded in it. Card would be issued 
>> to users of the library service of Association for the Blind of 
>> Western Australia as we establish print disability when people enrol.
>>
>> The library service of Association for the Blind of Western Australia 
>> will provide services to any print disabled child or adult including 
>> those with dyslexia and other language based disorders regardless of 
>> their place of residence. Please feel free to contact us for more
information.
>>
>> I would invite your comments on this proposal. Thank you for your time.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Gregory Kearney | Manager Accessible Media Association for the Blind 
>> of WA
>> - Guide Dogs WA PO Box 101, Victoria Park WA 6979 | 61 Kitchener Ave, 
>> Victoria Park WA 6100
>> Tel: 08 9311 8246 | Fax: 08 9361 8696 | www.guidedogswa.com.au
>> Tel: 307-224-4022 (North America)
>> Email: greg.kearney at guidedogswa.com.au
>> Email: gkearney at gmail.com
>>
>> Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this 
>> right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to 
>> seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and 
>> regardless of frontiers.
>> Article 19 of the UN Universal Declaration of Human Rights
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Gregory Kearney | Manager Accessible Media Association for the Blind 
>> of WA
>> - Guide Dogs WA PO Box 101, Victoria Park WA 6979 | 61 Kitchener Ave, 
>> Victoria Park WA 6100
>> Tel: 08 9311 8246 | Fax: 08 9361 8696 | www.guidedogswa.com.au
>> Tel: 307-224-4022 (North America)
>> Email: greg.kearney at guidedogswa.com.au
>> Email: gkearney at gmail.com
>>
>> Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this 
>> right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to 
>> seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and 
>> regardless of frontiers.
>> Article 19 of the UN Universal Declaration of Human Rights
>>
>>
>>
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