[DTB-Talk] Bard censoring certain material?

[Sherri]

I read the Beatles' biography by Hunter Davis in the seventies and it had all the words and direct quotes.

I don't think this is cultural.

Sherri
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Subject: Re: [DTB-Talk] Bard censoring certain material?

Actually, there was a time when NLS chose not to record titles, due to their content. Those of us who grew up reading talking books back in the sixties didn't encounter the use of profanity, save for the exception in Gone with the Wind. I think this was more cultural than censorship. Remember, they did the same for any broadcasts, and most movies.
Let's see what Judy has to tell us. 	

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Oh this is not good.  Did not use to be this way!  Why are they treating us like children?

Sherri

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Very well put. Thank you for saying that.

Cheryl Osborn


> On Jul 26, 2019, at 1:49 PM, Dale Leavens via DTB-Talk <dtb-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> I resent the patronizing attitude toward us as blind people, like children who apparently don’t have sufficient personalities to discern for ourselves.
> 
> 
> Many of us Canadians don’t understand how carefully American television sensor language on television broadcasts but so readily show often gratuitous violence of the most graphical type.
> 
> I suppose culture is a complicated thing and very personal
> 
> Still, I resent having to accept other people’s values being imposed on me just because I have no visual acuity.
> 
> Cheers.
> 
> 
> Dale Leavens
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>> On Jul 26, 2019, at 2:06 PM, Christopher Gilland via DTB-Talk <dtb-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>> OK, I just made a discovery today which does not at all make me the slightest bit happy.
>> 
>> I'm not one for swearing, however, neither am I one for sensorship.
>> 
>> I was listening to a book which I'd downloaded from Bard, come to think of it, this was the 2nd title I've noticed this. I'm only quoting here from a book, so please do not ban me for a simple quotation, and not that of my own remark, but one line in the book said, "by the look on her face, you would have thought she didn't give a shit." What you actually heard however in the downloaded Bard recording was, she didn't give a... bee'eep. The only way I know they said the word s h i t is because it's a commurcial audio book, and, it just so happens that I downloaded the original mainstream recording from Audible, as I was very curious if they actually bleeped the word in the mainstream recording. I've found most audio books Bard or not, if there is a swear word, regardless cultural beliefs etc, the narrator *has* to say it. If you're a pro narrator, from what I understand, you have to put emotions and things like that aside in order for the recording to past quality control screening. Anyway, on the actual Audible version, same narrator, same recording, etc, it was not bleeped out. I could make out the word clear as night and day.
>> 
>> This led me to check the other book to see if the book did the same thing. I downloaded the Bard book again to my shelf, went to the chapter in question, and listened through Bard. The line was, and no, even quoting, I'm not gonna repeat this word as it's way more offensive to many than the sh word, but basically, the line was, it was f**king crazy.
>> 
>> The narrator on the Bard version said, effing crazy. When I listened to the version on Audible, and even checked the actual print text through a scanned copy on Bookshare, the actual F word was there. Again, I ab, suh, lootly! do not condone that type language, however, that said, come on! It's a book for Pete sake!
>> 
>> Why're Bard narrators all of a sudden unlike before being coached evidently to not just read what is on the page? Both these books were fairly newer titles. Bard didn't seem to used to do this.
>> 
>> What changed?
>> 
>> Chris.
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