[Electronics-talk] turning on SAP

Sun Feb 8 01:01:26 UTC 2009

For my part, and this is only my opinion, I don't see close captioning 
and described video as being analogous. I've watched and enjoyed plenty 
of movies and television without described video. I've also watched 
movies that had so much action, so many shots of scenery and so little 
dialog that describing the video didn't really make the movie enjoyable 
for me. Finally, I have heard excellent described video and not so 
excellent described video. I've found the described video almost to be 
an art form in and of itself. My worry, and this is only a minor worry, 
would be what quality of described video would we get if it were 
mandated and had to be mass produced.

I enjoy described video, and in general, all things being equal, I'll 
watch the same movie or TV show with described video over watching it 
without described video, but I'm not convinced at all that the advocacy 
organizations of and for the blind should spend their resources having 
described video legislated. I'm also of the opinion that having things 
legislated costs more than just the effort to get the law passed. I 
think in many cases there's a backlash effect against the organization 
getting the legislation passed. For this reason, resorting to 
legislation is not something that should be done casually.

ckrugman at sbcglobal.net wrote:
> Other than description in sporting events Is there really a need for 
> this? I may have an unusual viewpoint here but I'm not sure that it is 
> really necessary or important. but then there is little on TV that 
> holds my attention.
> Chuck
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerald Levy" 
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> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances" 
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> Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 10:22 AM
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] turning on SAP
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>>
>> To my knowledge, there are no FCC regulations that stipulate the 
>> amount of described programming that TV channels aare required to 
>> broadcast. Advocacy groups for the deaf have succeeded in making 
>> closed captioning almost universal, yet advocacy groups for the blind 
>> can't seem to accomplish the same thing for described programming.
>>
>> Gerald
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nicole B. Torcolini" 
>> <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
>> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances" 
>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 12:35 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] turning on SAP
>>
>>
>>> It's kind of pointless that the FCC require a certain amount of 
>>> described
>>> programs if the providers are not providing access to it.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "A. Chew" <a1chew at hotmail.com>
>>> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 8:16 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] turning on SAP
>>>
>>>
>>> this may not be so.
>>> Comcast does not know what sap is ...
>>> i have tried to turn it on and several of there customer service phone
>>> people have no idea what i am talking about....
>>>
>>> in some reading that i have done, the articles suggest that sap or 
>>> described
>>> programs are not supported on deal tv.   even the public broadcast 
>>> sap is
>>> not accessible via cable ....  based on my attempts.
>>>
>>>
>>> if someone can work their way thru cable provides and sap...  i 
>>> would love
>>> to know the magic.
>>>
>>> - r.no
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "tony sohl" <tonysohl at cox.net>
>>> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 12:16 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] turning on SAP
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi all usualluy the SAP{ is provided on the Public TV stations no 
>>>> matter
>>>> if you have cable or not.
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nicole B. Torcolini" 
>>>> <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
>>>> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
>>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 11:27 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] turning on SAP
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> First and foremost, is sap provided as part of your service?
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dhunthausen" 
>>>>> <dhunthausen at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "electronics list" <Electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 9:15 PM
>>>>> Subject: [Electronics-talk] turning on SAP
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear list,
>>>>> I recently purchased aVerizon FIOS cable box with service. I can't 
>>>>> figure
>>>>> out how to turn on SAP, and have even had sighted help. If anyone has
>>>>> experience with Verizon cable boxes, I would greatly appriciate 
>>>>> any help.
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>> Drew
>>>>>
>>>>> Drew Hunthausen
>>>>> 714-296-7111
>>>>> Mailto: dhunthausen at gmail.com
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