[Electronics-talk] iPhone v Blackberry

[Baracco, Andrew W]

Perhaps something has changed, but because I am a Verizon Wireless
customer, and the Storm is sold by Verizon, I was interested in it.  At
CSUN, I specifically asked the rep from Blackberry about the Storm, and
he said no.  The phone that they were showing at CSUN looked like a
typical candy bar phone with the screen  on top and the keys below it.
Andy



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[mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jim Barbour
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 12:47 PM
To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] iPhone v Blackberry

Oh interesting.  Serotalk had a podcast this week where I thought they
said that the touchscreen blackberry would work with orator.

Sorry for the confusion, I can easily believe that I misunderstood.

Jim

On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 12:31:41PM -0700, Baracco, Andrew W wrote:
> The Blackberry has one model, the Storm, that is a touch screen, but
> Orator will not work with that model.
> 
> Andy
> 
> 
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> [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Steve
Jacobson
> Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 11:00 AM
> To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] iPhone v Blackberry
> 
> Jim,
> 
> You are one up on me, then, I never heard that the Blackberry was a
> touch screen.  
> 
> On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 09:11:05 -0700, Jim Barbour wrote:
> 
> >Hey Steve,
> 
> >Yes, I was there and heard the presentation from Sarah and Rich.
> 
> >The reason I was trying to compare these two devices is that the
> >blackberry (apparently, according to a recent Serotalk podcast) also
> >uses a touchscreen for blind folks.
> 
> >Apparently, they were showing the orator and the blackberry at the
NFB
> >convention, but I totally didn't think to go look at it.
> 
> >I didn't realize orator isn't out yet.
> 
> >Thanks Steve,
> 
> >Jim
> 
> >On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 09:25:17AM -0500, Steve Jacobson wrote:
> >> Jim,
> >> 
> >> >From what I have heard, the Blackberry and Orator will behave
> similarly to other phones with screen readers such as Mobile Speak.
> However, it is not out yet, 
> and 
> >> my understanding is that it needs to be used with a Blackberry
> server.
> >> 
> >> VoiceOver in the I Phone seems pretty complete, but the interface
is
> completely different using a touch screen with gestures.  It should
also
> be noted that the 
> touch 
> >> screen and the gestures used are altered when VoiceOver is running
so
> the phone behaves differently than it does without VoiceOver running.
> Since this is all 
> very 
> >> new, it is hard to really compare it with existing phones or even
> with the Blackberry.  Were you at the R&D meeting on Tuesday evening?
> There was a fairly 
> useful 
> >> and detailed presentation on the I Phone.  There is definitely a
> learning curve to using it, but the feeling is that it can be done.  
> >> 
> >> Most of us feel less comfortable with the touch screen approach,
but
> I think we have to be careful to not judge the approach until we have
> some significant 
> >> collective experience with it.  Clearly some good thought has gone
> into it.  I hope this helps some.
> >> 
> >> Best regards,
> >> 
> >> Steve Jacobson
> >> 
> >> On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 21:56:29 -0700, Jim Barbour wrote:
> >> 
> >> >Hey Folks,
> >> 
> >> >I *think* this is on topic for this list.
> >> 
> >> >Has anyone seen comparrisons between the blackberry orator and
> >> >voiceover on the iPhone?
> >> 
> >> >I'm trying to figure out how to choose between them.
> >> 
> >> >Thanks,
> >> 
> >> >Jim
> >> 
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