[Electronics-talk] iPhone v Blackberry

[Steve Jacobson]

Andy,

You are right, Orator will work on a new model of Blackberry that has not been released yet as I understand it.  From what you and Jim have said, it likely is a touch 
screen but I heard very little about their interface to a touch screen but a lot regarding the I Phone.  It sounds as though we better get used to touch screens.

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 12:31:41 -0700, Baracco, Andrew W wrote:

>The Blackberry has one model, the Storm, that is a touch screen, but
>Orator will not work with that model.

>Andy


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>Jim,

>You are one up on me, then, I never heard that the Blackberry was a
>touch screen.  

>On Tue, 14 Jul 2009 09:11:05 -0700, Jim Barbour wrote:

>>Hey Steve,

>>Yes, I was there and heard the presentation from Sarah and Rich.

>>The reason I was trying to compare these two devices is that the
>>blackberry (apparently, according to a recent Serotalk podcast) also
>>uses a touchscreen for blind folks.

>>Apparently, they were showing the orator and the blackberry at the NFB
>>convention, but I totally didn't think to go look at it.

>>I didn't realize orator isn't out yet.

>>Thanks Steve,

>>Jim

>>On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 09:25:17AM -0500, Steve Jacobson wrote:
>>> Jim,
>>> 
>>> >From what I have heard, the Blackberry and Orator will behave
>similarly to other phones with screen readers such as Mobile Speak.
>However, it is not out yet, 
>and 
>>> my understanding is that it needs to be used with a Blackberry
>server.
>>> 
>>> VoiceOver in the I Phone seems pretty complete, but the interface is
>completely different using a touch screen with gestures.  It should also
>be noted that the 
>touch 
>>> screen and the gestures used are altered when VoiceOver is running so
>the phone behaves differently than it does without VoiceOver running.
>Since this is all 
>very 
>>> new, it is hard to really compare it with existing phones or even
>with the Blackberry.  Were you at the R&D meeting on Tuesday evening?
>There was a fairly 
>useful 
>>> and detailed presentation on the I Phone.  There is definitely a
>learning curve to using it, but the feeling is that it can be done.  
>>> 
>>> Most of us feel less comfortable with the touch screen approach, but
>I think we have to be careful to not judge the approach until we have
>some significant 
>>> collective experience with it.  Clearly some good thought has gone
>into it.  I hope this helps some.
>>> 
>>> Best regards,
>>> 
>>> Steve Jacobson
>>> 
>>> On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 21:56:29 -0700, Jim Barbour wrote:
>>> 
>>> >Hey Folks,
>>> 
>>> >I *think* this is on topic for this list.
>>> 
>>> >Has anyone seen comparrisons between the blackberry orator and
>>> >voiceover on the iPhone?
>>> 
>>> >I'm trying to figure out how to choose between them.
>>> 
>>> >Thanks,
>>> 
>>> >Jim
>>> 
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