[Electronics-talk] [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: Digital Talking Book Players

Sat Oct 17 22:47:57 UTC 2009

lazy I guess
Michael
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gail The U. S. Male" <gailcrowe1959 at gmail.com>
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Subject: [Bulk] Re: [Electronics-talk] [Bulk] Re: Digital Talking Book 
Players


> why not just lock the stream keyboard?
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Michael" <bonsai1b at bellsouth.net>
> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances" 
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> Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2009 2:32 PM
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] [Bulk] Re: Digital Talking Book Players
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>
>>
>> One definite improvement that could be made on the case in my opinion is 
>> to
>> have some solid substance inside the flap that comes down over the face 
>> of
>> the Stream to prevent inadvertent depressing a button.  I  can't tell you
>> how many times I've bumped the Stream and had to pull it out to get rid 
>> of
>> the accidental command.   I guess I'm clumsy or am I?
>>
>> If any Humanware people are watching.
>> Michael
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "barb o'connor" <broconnor1972 at comcast.net>
>> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, October 17, 2009 1:59 PM
>> Subject: [Bulk] Re: [Electronics-talk] Digital Talking Book Players
>>
>>
>>> Tony, I have to disagree about the construction of the Stream case.  I
>>> have
>>> no issues with it but, that is a matter of opinion.  The only thing I
>>> would
>>> like to see with the case would be a place for the SD cards.  I can live
>>> with it, however.  I think the case has proved to be quite sturdy.
>>>
>>> Barb
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Tony Sohl" <tonysohl at cox.net>
>>> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 10:45 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Digital Talking Book Players
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi i have been able to put the stream in the pocket of my shirt and I
>>>> have
>>>> not had any problems with it that is if you remove it from the case 
>>>> that
>>>> it comes with. I don't recommend using the case that it came with 
>>>> because
>>>> it is not very well made. The NLS books will play on the stream either
>>>> with an SD card or the optional cartrige holder that sdnaps on the 
>>>> bottom
>>>> of the unit.
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Kevin Lowe" <klowe at saavi.us>
>>>> To: "'Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances'"
>>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 10:46 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Digital Talking Book Players
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> This question really depends on how complex you want to get.  The 
>>>>> Victor
>>>>> Stream is great for what it does.  It is a simpler interface than a 
>>>>> Book
>>>>> Sense.  The menus are straight forward and one can learn it within a
>>>>> couple
>>>>> of hours.  The buttons are widely spaced and put on a larger machine 
>>>>> for
>>>>> easier use.  The Stream will fit in your pocket, but not very easily.
>>>>> It
>>>>> is
>>>>> best for fitting on a belt.  The Stream only comes in one version.  It
>>>>> has
>>>>> no onboard memory.  The battery life is about 15 hours, but it can 
>>>>> only
>>>>> be
>>>>> charged using AC power.
>>>>>
>>>>> The Book Sense is a much more robust player.  It uses dialog boxes and
>>>>> submenus that the Stream does not use.  There are several advantages.
>>>>> The
>>>>> Book Sense is about the size of a cell phone.  It can play all the 
>>>>> media
>>>>> formats of the Stream, but reads many more formats for electronic 
>>>>> text.
>>>>> The
>>>>> Stream only basically reads .txt files and html.  The Book Sense will
>>>>> read
>>>>> word 2003 and 2007, along with other formats.  For example, I took the
>>>>> user's manual for the Book Sense in Word 2003 format and simply 
>>>>> dropped
>>>>> it
>>>>> on the Book Sense.  I would have had to convert it to a text file to
>>>>> read
>>>>> it
>>>>> on the Stream.  It does not have onboard memory, but as with the 
>>>>> Stream
>>>>> memory is through an SD card.  It can be charged either through AC 
>>>>> power
>>>>> or
>>>>> through a USB port on your computer.
>>>>>
>>>>> The Book Sense has a basic version for about #350.  The ab out $450
>>>>> version
>>>>> (XT).  This version has an FM radio and Bluetooth capabilities, plus 
>>>>> 4GB
>>>>> of
>>>>> onboard memory.  Both versions also work iwht Itunes, supposedly.
>>>>>
>>>>> They are both good pieces of equipment, but it depends on what you 
>>>>> want.
>>>>> If
>>>>> you are a technical person a Book Sense may be good.  If technology
>>>>> isn't
>>>>> your favorite thing, then the Stream is probably best.  Both machines
>>>>> are
>>>>> perfectly adequate for reading audiobooks and listening to msuci.  The
>>>>> Stream does have lesser quality for it's onboard speaker than the Book
>>>>> Sense, but both are excellent for listening with headphones.
>>>>>
>>>>> I hope this helped.  Let's see what others have to say.
>>>>>
>>>>> Kevin
>>>>> SAAVI
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>> [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of dennis
>>>>> Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 8:47 AM
>>>>> To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Digital Talking Book Players
>>>>>
>>>>> the book sense charges to allow you to use  blue tooth head phones the
>>>>> victor stream does not
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Darrin Porter" <Darrin.Porter at united-mar.com>
>>>>> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
>>>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 10:46 AM
>>>>> Subject: [Electronics-talk] Digital Talking Book Players
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> In fear of starting a heated debate, I would like to ask which of the
>>>>>> five
>>>>>
>>>>>> or six machines that will play the new NLS digital talking books the
>>>>>> group
>>>>>
>>>>>> thinks is the best.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am in the market for one and can't really decide which one to get.
>>>>>> The
>>>>>> one I've heard the most about is, of course, the Victor Reader Stream
>>>>>> and,
>>>>>
>>>>>> several months ago, would have probably bought it without question.
>>>>>> But
>>>>>> recently, I listened to an accessable devices podcast that, at least 
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> me, suggested that the Book Senth was probably the best deal.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, experiences?  Suggestions?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would like to use it both with and without earphones and will
>>>>>> probably
>>>>>> play music, podcasts and other audio as well as the NLS books.  Not
>>>>>> much
>>>>>> interested in Audible.com books, but may use the text-to-speach 
>>>>>> feature
>>>>>> to
>>>>>
>>>>>> read E-books.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Darrin
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Darrin Porter
>>>>>> Senior Technical Engineer
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> United Ocean Services, L.L.C.
>>>>>> 601 South Harbour Island Boulevard, Suite 230
>>>>>> Tampa, Florida  33602
>>>>>> (813) 209-4247 (office)
>>>>>> (813) 744-0011 (cellular phone)
>>>>>> (813) 242-4849 (fax)
>>>>>> DARRIN.PORTER at UNITED-MAR.COMM<mailto:DARRIN.PORTER at UNITED-MAR.COMM>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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