[Electronics-talk] orbit research money identifierr

Steve Jacobson steve.jacobson at visi.com
Tue Feb 23 23:56:07 UTC 2010 

I think the point is that companies never start large.  The fact that they are small is not proof positive that they will not 
succeed.  Time will tell how successful Orbit will be, but I think it does all of us a disservice to place labels such as 
"scam" and "fishy" when there has been reasonable explanations put forth.  

Best regards,

Steve Jacobson

On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 16:20:36 -0500, Gerald Levy wrote:


>Comparing Orbit Research to Dell or Apple is a bit of a stretch.

>Gerald

>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Baracco, Andrew W" <Andrew.Baracco at va.gov>
>To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances" 
><electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 1:33 PM
>Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] orbit research money identifierr


>> Well, have you read anything about the history of Dell computers.
>> Michael Dell started the company in his college dorm room.  I understand
>> that Apple computer started in somebody's garage.
>>
>> Andy
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>> [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 4:11 AM
>> To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] orbit research money identifierr
>>
>>
>> Apparently, this company only sells one other product besides the IBill:
>> a
>> talking scientific calculatr, for which there is not a huge market.  And
>>
>> although it sounds like a legitimate company, I wonder if it it is
>> actually
>> being run out of someone's basement.  It seems like a Mickey Mouse
>> operation
>> that's doomed to fail unless it teams up with an experienced distributor
>> of
>> blindness products.
>>
>> Gerald
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
>> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 9:24 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] orbit research money identifierr
>>
>>
>>> AS I say, it's a legitimate outfit (and has nothing to do with NFB
>> insofar
>>> as I am aware and I oughtta know). I've seen one of the identifiers
>> and it
>>> does work as advertised. But the firm appears extremely reluctant for
>> some
>>> reason to want to work thru another firm or license anyone else to
>>> manufacture the device. I haven't a clue why.
>>>
>>> Mike Freeman, Member
>>> Board of Directors
>>> National Federation of the Blind
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Gerald Levy" <bwaylimited at verizon.net>
>>> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 7:42 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] orbit research money identifierr
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I must say that this outfit is beginning to look very fishy.  For a
>>>> company that supposedly specializes in products for the blind, their
>> web
>>>> site is surprisingly poorly designed.  And why are they reluctant to
>>>> distribute the IBill through blindness products mail order
>> specialists
>>>> like ILA?  Until someone on this list actually receives one of these
>>>> gizmos, I will withhold ordering one. I am now very skeptical that
>> this
>>>> company can deliver the goods.
>>>>
>>>> Gerald
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Stephen Guerra" <stephen at independentliving.com>
>>>> To: "'Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances'"
>>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 10:12 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] orbit research money identifierr
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Gabe-
>>>>>
>>>>> |As usual, your narrative is far from surprising.
>>>>>
>>>>> I will say, that it is surprising to me that the NFB has not sued
>> you
>>>>> for
>>>>> your statements, but only time will tell on the future of this
>> company.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Stephen A. Guerra
>>>>> Assistive Technology Specialist and Technical Operations
>>>>>
>>>>> Independent Living Aids LLC
>>>>>
>>>>> 200 Robbins Lane
>>>>> Building A, Suite 100
>>>>> Jericho, NY 11753
>>>>> Phone: (800) 537-2118-x3817
>>>>> Direct Fax: (516) 450-3842
>>>>>
>>>>> Read the All Things ILA Tech Blog
>>>>>
>>>>> Visit Independent Living Aids on the Web
>>>>>
>>>>> Visit Soundbytes on the Web
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>> [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Gabe Vega
>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 9:02 AM
>>>>> To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] orbit research money identifierr
>>>>>
>>>>> After looking up the domain for this company and researching it more
>> I
>>>>> am finding it hard to believe anything will come out of this.
>>>>>
>>>>> the domain is set to expire for a year. on jan 19 2011 and the
>> company
>>>>> is a regestered company in delaware and after looking that up found
>> it
>>>>> to be a shell address for multiple companies with a signing agent
>> only
>>>>> being present. many companies do this for tax purposes.
>>>>>
>>>>> and last, the site is plain, jane and insaine. its lacking in info,
>> it
>>>>> looks like a 5th grade student designed it. and in general it has no
>>>>> professional content.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am left with many questions and I am untrusting of not only this
>>>>> site, but of the NFB for promoting it. hell, for all we know its a
>> NFB
>>>>> shell company? atempting to do research in to how viable demand is
>> for
>>>>> cheep talking devices. in order to prove demand is low and to charge
>>>>> high prices for government to buy products?
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2/22/10, Gerald Levy <bwaylimited at verizon.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It sounds like Orbit Research is one of those small upsstart
>> companies
>>>>> that
>>>>>> promise a breakthrough product at an affordable price, but
>> ultimately
>>>>> can't
>>>>>> deliver because of inadequate production capacity or gross
>>>>>> mismanagement.
>>>>>> Obviously, this company needs to improve its customer service.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gerald
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Mike Freeman" <k7uij at panix.com>
>>>>>> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
>>>>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 10:47 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] orbit research money identifierr
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Orbit Research wasn't/isn't set up to manufacture the number of
>>>>>>> identifiers consistent with the demand. Presumably, the firm will
>>>>>>> contact
>>>>>>> you, maria, or anyone else who has expressed a desire to purchase
>> one,
>>>>> for
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> that matter, when it has more in stock. Since you haven't heard
>>>>>>> anything,
>>>>>>> you aren't out any money since you haven't given a credit card
>> number.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Gerald Levy" <bwaylimited at verizon.net>
>>>>>>> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
>>>>>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 3:00 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] orbit research money identifierr
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How long ago did you send them an email message?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Gerald
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>> From: "Maria Bradford" <mtbradford at qwest.net>
>>>>>>>> To: "electronics talk" <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 5:02 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: [Electronics-talk] orbit research money identifierr
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi everyone!
>>>>>>>>> Can anyone tell me what is happening with orbit research and the
>>
>>>>>>>>> money
>>>>>>>>> identifier? When I try to call them, I get the message that the
>>>>>>>>> money
>>>>>>>>> identifier is backordered. I went to their website and emailed
>> my
>>>>>>>>> request to ordr a money identifier. I still haven't heard
>> anything.
>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>> hope it is not necessary to enter a creditcard number!
>>>>>>>>> Thanks
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