[Electronics-talk] learning about apple voice over
Sharon Ballantyne
sballan at nexicom.net
Mon Jul 5 15:18:04 UTC 2010
Dear Priscilla,
I am contemplating making a switch to a MAC. I believe their operating
system is much more stable. I was an apple and then MAC user prior to losing
all of my sight and went to the PC windows operating systemout of necessity
for technology.
I have no sight at all. Sometimes I find folks are speaking about great
proeucts and I learn they are blessed with some sight to help so my inquiry
is about navigating with only voice over.
Also do you use an ipod or iphone and how do you find the use with your
computer, if you have either of these products?
Do you happen to use audible.com or use a victor stream?
Sorry for my myriad of questions.
Thanks so much.
Sharon
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Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] learning about apple voice over
Hello listers,,
Apple.com is a greate site to get info about VoiceOver.
I got a Mac that has been given to to me as a Graduation present. Ifyou have
any concerns or questions please feel free to reply to this message.
You can email me at Priscillagarces1987 at hotmail.com.
Thank you very much.
Priscilla
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> Greetings to the list.
>
> I would like to learn about Apple's VoiceOver feature. Can someone
> please recommend a site to me, written from the perspective of a blind
> user, that discusses how to set it up and how to use it?
>
> Thank you.
>
> Craig
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> Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 11:28:11 -0700
> From: "Baracco, Andrew W" <Andrew.Baracco at va.gov>
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> If you have the iPhone 4, or have upgraded the iPhone 3GS to the IOS4
> Software build, you can do what is called touch typing. You simply
> use a finger to find the letter you want to type, and when you lift
> the finger off of that letter, it is entered. Some people have
> reached speeds of 40 WPM using this method.
>
> Andy
>
>
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> Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 6:47 AM
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> I have not figured out how to down load aps but I think I could if I
> had the time. Texting is slow but totally accessible. It is a small
> key board and you have to find the letter and then double tap the
> screen for each letter so it takes some time and patience!
> Christie
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> Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 14:29:39 -0400
> From: "Steve P. Deeley" <stevep.deeley at insightbb.com>
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> As a result of gaining information from this list, I've order an
> I-phone 4.
>
> Steve
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>> www.maccessibility.net
>>
>> Andy
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>> [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Craig
>> Werner
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 5:22 AM
>> To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
>> Subject: [Electronics-talk] Learning about Apple VoiceOver
>>
>> Greetings to the list.
>>
>> I would like to learn about Apple's VoiceOver feature. Can someone
>> please recommend a site to me, written from the perspective of a
>> blind user, that discusses how to set it up and how to use it?
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Craig
>>
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> Well, you can use headphones and Bluetooth headset just like you can
> with any other phone.
>
> Andy
>
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> [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tom Evans
> Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 9:44 AM
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> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Learning about Apple VoiceOver
>
> How do you listen to the iphone in a noisy place like bus, train etc?
> Can Bluetooth assist with this?
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Elizabeth
> Campbell
> Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 5:58 AM
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>
> Hello Craig,
>
> If you go to
> www.apple.com/accessibility, you will find good resources.
>
> Also,
> www.lioncourt.com is an excellent web site on the Mac, IPhone and
> Voice
> Over.
>
> I use Voice Over with the IPhone and think it's great.
>
> Sincerely,
>
>
>
> Liz Campbell
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> Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 7:22 AM
> Subject: [Electronics-talk] Learning about Apple VoiceOver
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>
>> Greetings to the list.
>>
>> I would like to learn about Apple's VoiceOver feature. Can someone
> please
>
>> recommend a site to me, written from the perspective of a blind user,
> that
>
>> discusses how to set it up and how to use it?
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Craig
>>
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> Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 11:38:32 -0700
> From: "Tom Evans" <tevans2003 at sbcglobal.net>
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> Tell us how it went, with your new iphone 4 and as compared to what
> you had before
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Steve P.
> Deeley
> Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 11:30 AM
> To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Learning about Apple VoiceOver
>
> As a result of gaining information from this list, I've order an
> I-phone 4.
>
> Steve
> ----- Original Message -----
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> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
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>> www.maccessibility.net
>>
>> Andy
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>> [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Craig
>> Werner
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 5:22 AM
>> To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
>> Subject: [Electronics-talk] Learning about Apple VoiceOver
>>
>> Greetings to the list.
>>
>> I would like to learn about Apple's VoiceOver feature. Can someone
>> please recommend a site to me, written from the perspective of a
>> blind user, that discusses how to set it up and how to use it?
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Craig
>>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 16:01:10 -0400
> From: "Steve P. Deeley" <stevep.deeley at insightbb.com>
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> I probably won't get it for a couple of weeks. There are big
> back-orders.
> I just have a little flip phone. No texting or e-mailing on this unit!!
> I'll keep you posted.
> /Steve
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> Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 2:38 PM
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Learning about Apple VoiceOver
>
>
>> Tell us how it went, with your new iphone 4 and as compared to what
>> you
>> had
>> before
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>> [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Steve P.
>> Deeley
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 11:30 AM
>> To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Learning about Apple VoiceOver
>>
>> As a result of gaining information from this list, I've order an
>> I-phone
>> 4.
>>
>> Steve
>> ----- Original Message -----
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>> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 2:24 PM
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>>
>>> www.maccessibility.net
>>>
>>> Andy
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>> [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Craig
>>> Werner
>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 5:22 AM
>>> To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
>>> Subject: [Electronics-talk] Learning about Apple VoiceOver
>>>
>>> Greetings to the list.
>>>
>>> I would like to learn about Apple's VoiceOver feature. Can someone
>>> please recommend a site to me, written from the perspective of a
>>> blind user, that discusses how to set it up and how to use it?
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> Craig
>>>
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> Wow!
> ----- Original Message -----
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>
>> If you have the iPhone 4, or have upgraded the iPhone 3GS to the IOS4
>> Software build, you can do what is called touch typing. You simply
>> use a finger to find the letter you want to type, and when you lift
>> the finger off of that letter, it is entered. Some people have
>> reached speeds of 40 WPM using this method.
>>
>> Andy
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>> [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of C Keen
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 6:47 AM
>> To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Learning about Apple Voiceover
>>
>> I have not figured out how to down load aps but I think I could if I
>> had the time. Texting is slow but totally accessible. It is a small
>> key board and you have to find the letter and then double tap the
>> screen for each letter so it takes some time and patience! Christie
>>
>>
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> Actually, this touch typing method was not developed by Apple. It is
> also referred to as swiping, and I think it was actually developed by
> Samsung, and is available on some of their phones.
>
> Andy
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Steve P.
> Deeley
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> Wow!
> ----- Original Message -----
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> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
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>
>> If you have the iPhone 4, or have upgraded the iPhone 3GS to the IOS4
>> Software build, you can do what is called touch typing. You simply
> use
>> a finger to find the letter you want to type, and when you lift the
>> finger off of that letter, it is entered. Some people have reached
>> speeds of 40 WPM using this method.
>>
>> Andy
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>> [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of C Keen
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 6:47 AM
>> To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Learning about Apple Voiceover
>>
>> I have not figured out how to down load aps but I think I could if I
>> had the time. Texting is slow but totally accessible. It is a small
>> key board and you have to find the letter and then double tap the
> screen
>> for each letter so it takes some time and patience!
>> Christie
>>
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> Message: 9
> Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 20:47:10 -0500
> From: "Dewey Bradley" <dewey.bradley at att.net>
> To: <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [Electronics-talk] asking for some help
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> If there is a better list for this, please let me know.
> You folks know how we have trouble with more and more web sights and
> the capsha codes. We have a really good christian radeo station, its
> accessible for the most part, but when you try to register your email
> with them, it ask you to type in the numbers, and they have no audeo
> link, I know that you can use firefox for this, but most of us use IE.
> I'm shore that they will fix it if they were told about the problem
> and how to fix it. People are good about that here where I live. the
> web sight is kwfc.orc My question is. I know that some of you on these
> lists are really good speakers and writers. I don't ever know how to
> put that stuff to them. So does anyone have a letter that you can send
> me to forword to them, with good spelling, that's my problem. Or if
> someone could email the sight for me. But I would like a letter for
> when I run across a web master that is open to changeing the sight.
> And I'm sorry if this is off topic. Thanks allot my blind brothers and
> systers! Dewey Bradley Springfield Missouri
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 19:10:08 -0700
> From: "Tony Sohl" <tonysohl at cox.net>
> To: <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [Electronics-talk] Accessibel DVD players/recorder
> Message-ID: <000601cb18c2$89002040$41043818 at melissac300ff8>
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>
> Hi I am looking for an accesible DVD recorder/player. I had a
> penasonic unit that had a VCR and DVD in one unit and the DVD player
> stopped working I have had the unit for about 10 years and it got it's
> use out of it.
>
> I was wondering does anyone have any suggestions? I am looking for
> either a DVD VCR combo unit that records from VHS to DVD or just a DVD
> recorder. If anyone has any suggestions could you e-mail me off the
> list at: tonysohl at cox.net
>
> Thank you so much.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 19:19:51 -0700
> From: "cheez" <cheez at cox.net>
> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] asking for some help
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>
> This website claims to be of assistance with captchas. www.solona.net
> I've never tried it. So, if you have any success with it, please let us
> know.
> Vince
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dewey Bradley" <dewey.bradley at att.net>
> To: <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 6:47 PM
> Subject: [Electronics-talk] asking for some help
>
>
>> If there is a better list for this, please let me know.
>> You folks know how we have trouble with more and more web sights and
>> the
>> capsha codes.
>> We have a really good christian radeo station, its accessible for the
most
>> part, but when you try to register your email with them, it ask you to
>> type in the numbers, and they have no audeo link, I know that you can use
>> firefox for this, but most of us use IE.
>> I'm shore that they will fix it if they were told about the problem and
>> how to fix it.
>> People are good about that here where I live.
>> the web sight is kwfc.orc
>> My question is.
>> I know that some of you on these lists are really good speakers and
>> writers.
>> I don't ever know how to put that stuff to them.
>> So does anyone have a letter that you can send me to forword to them,
with
>> good spelling, that's my problem.
>> Or if someone could email the sight for me.
>> But I would like a letter for when I run across a web master that is open
>> to changeing the sight.
>> And I'm sorry if this is off topic.
>> Thanks allot my blind brothers and systers!
>> Dewey Bradley
>> Springfield Missouri
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 21:28:20 -0500
> From: "Dewey Bradley" <dewey.bradley at att.net>
> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] asking for some help
> Message-ID: <D3B99EBE13B04F44A1C07B4A4F8A08DF at owner4d2e6f141>
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> I'll check it out, thanks
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "cheez" <cheez at cox.net>
> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 9:19 PM
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] asking for some help
>
>
>> This website claims to be of assistance with captchas. www.solona.net
>> I've never tried it. So, if you have any success with it, please let us
>> know.
>> Vince
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Dewey Bradley" <dewey.bradley at att.net>
>> To: <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 6:47 PM
>> Subject: [Electronics-talk] asking for some help
>>
>>
>>> If there is a better list for this, please let me know.
>>> You folks know how we have trouble with more and more web sights and
>>> the
>>> capsha codes.
>>> We have a really good christian radeo station, its accessible for the
>>> most part, but when you try to register your email with them, it ask you
>>> to type in the numbers, and they have no audeo link, I know that you can
>>> use firefox for this, but most of us use IE.
>>> I'm shore that they will fix it if they were told about the problem and
>>> how to fix it.
>>> People are good about that here where I live.
>>> the web sight is kwfc.orc
>>> My question is.
>>> I know that some of you on these lists are really good speakers and
>>> writers.
>>> I don't ever know how to put that stuff to them.
>>> So does anyone have a letter that you can send me to forword to them,
>>> with good spelling, that's my problem.
>>> Or if someone could email the sight for me.
>>> But I would like a letter for when I run across a web master that is
open
>>> to changeing the sight.
>>> And I'm sorry if this is off topic.
>>> Thanks allot my blind brothers and systers!
>>> Dewey Bradley
>>> Springfield Missouri
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Electronics-talk mailing list
>>> Electronics-talk at nfbnet.org
>>> http://www.nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/electronics-talk_nfbnet.org
>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>> Electronics-talk:
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> Message: 13
> Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2010 11:19:21 -0500
> From: David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com>
> To: david.andrews at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [Electronics-talk] Mobile Speak 4.5 for Symbian is Now
> Available!
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>
>>
>> Caroline Ragot - Marketing Director
>> <mailto:marketing at codefactory.es>marketing at codefactory.es
>>
>> Mobile Speak 4.5 for Symbian
>>
>>
>> Mobile Speak 4.5 for Symbian is Now Available
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Touch Screen, Web Browser, Calendar, TweetS60, Nokia C5, C6, E5 &
>> E73 Mode, and More!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Terrassa (Barcelona), Spain, July 1st, 2010
>>
>>
>>
>> Mobile Speak 4.5, a free update for all users of Mobile Speak 4.0,
>> is now available! Since the release of Mobile Speak 4.1, Code
>> Factory's Symbian development team has focused its efforts on two
>> main areas: Touch Screen and Web Browser support.
>>
>>
>> Using a Touch Screen Becomes as Easy as Using a Phone with Physical
>> Keys
>>
>>
>>
>> Mobile Speak 4.5 includes two new touch screen interaction modes,
>> based on the concept of a standard joystick and a standard numeric
>> keypad. All of the physical keys used to control the screen reader
>> and phone in non touch screen devices have now been converted by
>> Mobile Speak into very intuitive virtual touch keys. It is therefore
>> easier and faster to enter text, dial a number or navigate through
>> the menus of your touch screen device
>>
>> The two new touch screen input methods are named Keypad mode and
>> Joystick mode. The Keypad mode is the default touch mode. You can
>> switch to the Joystick mode with command + volume up key, and then
>> use command + volume down key to go back to the Keypad mode.
>>
>> In Keypad mode, the touch screen is divided into 12 virtual keys,
>> arranged just like a phone keypad (1, 2, and 3 at the top; 4, 5, and
>> 6 in the second row; 7, 8, and 9 in the third; and the star, 0, and
>> hash keys in the bottom row). By accessing the Keypad mode, you can
>> type numbers and letters just as with a physical keypad, including
>> using predictive text to compose text messages and email. This input
>> method allows you to enter text faster than either a virtual
>> keyboard or a review cursor with an onscreen keyboard.
>>
>> In addition, you can combine these virtual numeric keys with the
>> command key to perform command shortcuts, just as in previous
>> (non-touch) versions of Mobile Speak. For example, to mute Mobile
>> Speak, press the command key followed by the virtual 0 key at the
>> bottom center of the screen. Long-time users of Mobile Speak will
>> find this method of accessing commands familiar, and new users will
>> also find it a convenient alternative to the standard touch gestures.
>>
>> To access the left and right softkeys, delete characters, or press
>> enter, you can use a gesture called a "slide back" in one of four
>> directions. For example, to access the left softkey, you can perform
>> a "slide left and back" by sliding your finger right-to-left and
>> then left-to-right without releasing your finger or pausing between
>> the two motions. This gesture may take a few tries to be able to
>> perform it smoothly, but once you familiarize yourself with it, it
>> provides a quick and easy gesture to access common functions.
>>
>> Tip: To quickly become familiar with the virtual touch keys,
>> gestures and commands in Keypad mode, use the Keyboard Help mode.
>> This is activated and deactivated by pressing the Command key + long
>> press on the virtual key 5.
>>
>> Besides this Keypad mode, Mobile Speak 4.5 also features a Joystick
>> mode in which the touch screen is divided into 9 virtual keys,
>> arranged in a 3 x 3 grid. This touch input mode is intended for
>> users who prefer to interact with the phone using taps rather than
>> by slide gestures. The central key is joystick Enter, while the 4
>> keys directly above, below, left and right of the joystick
>> correspond to the joystick up, down, left and right keys. The bottom
>> left key is the left softkey, and the bottom right key is the right
>> softkey, and the upper right key is the delete key (upper left is
>> unassigned). Therefore if you are scrolling a list, you only have to
>> make taps on the top center or bottom center of your touch screen to
>> scroll up and down the list.
>>
>>
>> Improved Web Browsing Experience
>>
>>
>>
>> Based on the extensive feedback of Mobile Speak's users and beta
>> testers, many bugs have been fixed in order to provide a much more
>> advanced web browsing experience. These include:
>> * Fixed problem that prevented some pages from being accessible
>> on certain devices.
>> * Fixed problem where reading whole screen by pressing 9 would
>> sometimes finish before the end of page is reached.
>> * Fixed problem on many newer devices where the amount of
>> kilobytes downloaded and remaining was not being spoken when
>> pressing joystick up (or down) while a page is loading.
>> * Fixed problem when entering text in Text Area field on some
>> web pages. Pressing joystick enter will now open the Text Area so
>> that text can be entered.
>> * Fixed problem where Combo boxes were not always selectable.
>> Pressing joystick enter will now open Combo boxes so that the
>> selection can be modified.
>> * Fixed problem on some newer phones which could cause a combo
>> box to open unintentionally when passing over the element with joystick
moves.
>> * Fixed problem where a Combo box's contents were not
>> immediately refreshed with the new data after changing the combo
>> box selection.
>> * Fixed problem where some in-page links were not being jumped
>> to correctly.
>> * Fixed problem where the text of some elements was not being
>> spoken (affected some images, links or headers).
>> * Fixed various problems when moving up with joystick up, such
>> as: End of lists/tables was not spoken; all elements of combo box
>> were spoken; not symmetric to moving down with joystick down.
>> * Fixed problem when entering web address with T9 predictive
>> text active: it is no longer repeating full address each item a new
>> character is entered if the address starts with "http".
>> * Editor state is now spoken correctly (e.g. T9, alpha, number).
>> * After entering a password, its value is now displayed as
>> "****" when passing over the element with joystick moves, to improve
privacy.
>>
>>
>>
>> More New Features
>>
>>
>>
>> * Support for the Nokia calendar application in several new
>> devices where it was not yet supported (e.g. E52, E72, E75, 6730,
>> C5) when in Month, Agenda or To-do views.
>> * Support for <http://www.tweets60.com/>TweetS60, the popular
>> 3rd party Twitter client.
>> * Support for the
>>
<http://www.freedomscientific.com/products/fs/focus-40-blue-product-page.asp
>Focus
>> 40 Blue Braille portable device from Freedom Scientific. Listen to
>> Jonathan Mosen's demo at
>>
<http://www.codefactory.es/descargas/Audio/focus_40_blue.mp3>http://www.code
factory.es/descargas/Audio/focus_40_blue.mp3
>>
>> * Support for new phones: Nokia C5, Nokia C6, Nokia E5 and Nokia
>> E73 Mode (for T-Mobile USA).
>> * Changed T9 predictive text functionality so that, when
>> entering text in predictive mode and with Keyboard Echo set to
>> Characters, the whole word it spoken (just like it currently is
>> when Keyboard Echo is set to Characters and Words). Also speaking
>> the whole word when typing a space in predictive mode with keyboard
>> echo set to "Characters".
>> * Added feature to the user dictionary to allow the copying of
>> dictionaries between different voices.
>> * Added "Include in Toggle Profile command" setting in General
>> Tab. When set to Off, the Mobile Speak Profile is not included when
>> toggling profile with Command + Clear. Default is On for all profiles.
>> * Touch devices: Added new commands: Command + volume up and
>> Command + volume down. These allow you to easily cycle through
>> Mobile Speak's touchmodes : Keypad, Joystick, Quadrant, Review
>> Cursor and Stylus mode.
>> * Touch: Added Configuration option in General tab called "Touch
>> mode on startup" which allows you to select the Mobile Speak touch
>> mode that will be first active when Mobile Speak is launched.
>> * Activation: issues with SMS and Internet activation that
>> existed with some operators (e.g. AT&T) have now been resolved.
>>
>> Don't forget that Mobile Speak 4.5 is Cross Platform! Visit
>>
<http://codefactory.es/en/press.asp?id=388&y=2010&n=84>http://codefactory.es
/en/press.asp?id=388&y=2010&n=84
>> to read the Mobile Speak 4.5 for Windows Mobile press release.
>>
>> If you are a new user, download Mobile Speak 4.5 now at
>>
<http://codefactory.es/en/downloads.asp?id=347>http://codefactory.es/en/down
loads.asp?id=347
>> and try it for 30 days for free.
>>
>> If you are a user of a previous version from Mobile Speak 4.0 and
>> wish to upgrade to Mobile Speak 4.5, contact your distributor to
>> purchase an upgrade license. In addition to all the improvements and
>> new features of Mobile Speak 4.0 and 4.5, if you purchase an upgrade
>> license, you will also get
>> <http://codefactory.es/en/products.asp?id=312>Mobile Magnifier,
>> <http://codefactory.es/en/products.asp?id=314>Mobile DAISY
>> Player,<http://codefactory.es/en/products.asp?id=315> Color
>> Recognizer and the Games for free! To consult the complete list of
>> Code Factory's official distributors, visit
>>
<http://www.codefactory.es/en/page.asp?id=351>http://www.codefactory.es/en/p
age.asp?id=351
>>
>>
>> To learn how to install Mobile Speak 4.5 for Symbian for the first
>> time, follow the instructions at
>>
<http://www.codefactory.es/descargas/family_4/ms45_userguide_symbian.html#_T
oc265236570>http://www.codefactory.es/descargas/family_4/ms45_userguide_symb
ian.html#_Toc265236570
>>
>>
>> If upgrading from version 3.XX of Mobile Speak, make sure to FIRST
>> UNINSTALL all the Code Factory packages you have installed and then
>> RESTART the device. However if you already have version 4.XX
>> installed, just stop Mobile Speak and install v4.5. None of the TTS
>> packages have changed since v4.0, so there is no need to reinstall
>> them. For more information about upgrading, follow the instructions
>> at
>>
<http://www.codefactory.es/descargas/family_4/ms45_userguide_symbian.html#_T
oc265236574>http://www.codefactory.es/descargas/family_4/ms45_userguide_symb
ian.html#_Toc265236574
>>
>>
>> To read more about Mobile Speak 4.0 visit
>>
<http://codefactory.es/en/products.asp?id=318>http://codefactory.es/en/produ
cts.asp?id=318
>>
>>
>>
>> About Code Factory
>>
>>
>>
>> Founded in 1998 and headquartered in Terrassa (Barcelona), Spain,
>> Code Factory is the global leader committed to the development of
>> products designed to eliminate barriers to the accessibility of
>> mobile technology for the blind and visually impaired. Today, Code
>> Factory is the leading provider of screen readers, screen
>> magnifiers, and Braille interfaces for the widest range of
>> mainstream mobile devices. Among Code Factory's customers are well
>> known organizations for the blind such as ONCE, and carriers such as
>> AT&T, Bouygues Telecom, SFR, TIM and Vodafone. Code Factory has also
>> built strong partnerships with mainstream multinational companies
>> like RIM, Nokia, Microsoft, and Hewlett Packard as well as leading
>> assistive technology companies such as HumanWare, Optelec and Sendero
Group.
>>
>> For more information, feel free to contact Code Factory S.L.:
>>
>>
>> Code Factory, S.L., Rambla d'Egara 148 2-2, 08221 Terrassa
>> (Barcelona) <http://www.codefactory.cat/helpdesk/>HelpDesk,
>> www.codefactory.es Code Factory, S.L. - 2010
>>
>
> David Andrews and long white cane Harry, dandrews at visi.com
> Follow me on Twitter at http://www.twitter.com/dandrews920
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