[Electronics-talk] need to share

Fri Mar 26 07:24:34 UTC 2010

even the printed manuals are worthless for the most part. Recently I 
purchased a new stackable washer/dryer from Sears and the manual was 
practically useless. I had to have a sighted friend come over and show me 
how to use the machine.
Chuck
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joyce Porter" <joyce.m.porter at verizon.net>
To: "'Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances'" 
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Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 3:40 PM
Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] need to share


> Vince:  Unfortunately as far as I can tell things have not improved.  I
> find it so frustrating when I can't just take a manual and read it and 
> have
> it take me through the step-by-step instructions.  Frequently I write 
> these
> things down in Braille and keep my cheat sheet handy until I have it
> memorized.  Since I am such a gadget nut, however, I like to figure out 
> how
> things work but with phones that is a little more difficult than with some
> of my favorite kitchen gadgets.  Having been a rehab teacher, I had to 
> learn
> how a lot of things worked so I could help my students; it was really fun.
> Joyce
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
> [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of cheez
> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 9:28 AM
> To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] need to share
>
> Hi, Joyce:
> I've found that most online manuals are just scanned versions of the print
> edition.  And just like it would be if you were to scan it yourself,
> graphical characters still exist.  So, where there's an asterisk depicting 
> a
>
> certain key, it isn't explained and you are still left frustrated and in 
> the
>
> dark about how to use the product.
> Now, I must admit, it has been sometime since I've seen an online manual.
> So if things have improved, please, by all means, correct me.
> Vince
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Joyce Porter" <joyce.m.porter at verizon.net>
> To: "'Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances'"
> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 3:13 AM
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] need to share
>
>
>> Yes.  That is the one and I really like the fact that it has speech
>> already
>> built in.  If you want to text it is good for that too.  The only
>> complaint
>> I have is that those keys are too close together for me to type fast but 
>> I
>> have no plans to trade it in for anything else at this time even though
>> Verizon told me I could get a new phone with rebate in September.  I wish
>> the manuals to all of these phones were a little more explanatory and 
>> that
>> they were all on line.
>> Joyce
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>> [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Dreicer,
>> Zachary,
>> Survey
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 7:18 PM
>> To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] need to share
>>
>> the NV3 right?
>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Joyce Porter" <joyce.m.porter at verizon.net
>>>To: "'Discussion of accessible electronics and
>> appliances'"<electronics-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>Date sent: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 09:35:13 -0400
>>>Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] need to share
>>
>>>I have the 9200 and I really like it.
>>>Joyce
>>
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>[mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>> Dreicer, Zachary,
>>>Survey
>>>Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 10:06 PM
>>>To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
>>>Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] needto share
>>
>>>or the NV3 (LGVX9200)
>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: "Tom Evans" <tevans2003 at sbcglobal.net
>>>>To: "'Discussion of accessible electronics and
>>>appliances'"<electronics-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>>Date sent: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 09:15:42 -0700
>>>>Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] needto share
>>
>>>>Mine is 5 years old, but still good.  It was an LG.  you can get
>>>a newer
>>>>better version.  Go to Verizon and the bottom of the page, press
>>>on
>>>>accessibility and read the several things to click on in there.
>>>I think the
>>>>comparable phone today is LGVX 8350, but look it up.
>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>[mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>>Dreicer, Zachary,
>>>>Survey
>>>>Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 7:23 PM
>>>>To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
>>>>Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] needto share
>>
>>>>which phone from verizon did you use
>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>From: "Tom Evans" <tevans2003 at sbcglobal.net
>>>>>To: "'Discussion of accessible electronics and
>>>>appliances'"<electronics-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>>>Date sent: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 06:58:07 -0700
>>>>>Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] needto share
>>
>>>>>There is software already built in to some phones and are ready
>>>>off the
>>>>>shelf.  Some of those are not as good.  They think because it
>>>>talks that it
>>>>>is blind accessible.  I had a sprint one that was poor but did
>>>>better than
>>>>>some others.  I had a Verizon that did more and got me by for
>>>>years.  there
>>>>>was no extra cost and it did what it needed to do.  my needs are
>>>>greater so
>>>>>I am looking at the phones like iphone or phones that use talks
>>>>or mobile
>>>>>speak.  I would go their website and see what phones work with
>>>>them.  The
>>>>>list will always change as there are new phones daily.  I would
>>>>also look at
>>>>>my needs and see what you need to do with the phone.  your phone
>>>>may quite
>>>>>simply not have enough power or not compatible In working with
>>>>third party
>>>>>software.
>>
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>From: electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>>[mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Donald
>>>>Lee
>>>>>Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2010 1:44 AM
>>>>>To: electronics-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>>>Subject: [Electronics-talk] needto share
>>
>>>>>Hi there  lawnmower84 and all,   I think you are missing what I'm
>>>>trying to
>>>>>say.  I'm trying to ask why certain phones are designated for
>>>>software such
>>>>>as talks and mobile speak, versus the mainstream of phones.
>>>>>Can someone please help me?
>>>>>Many thanks
>>>>>Don
>>
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