[Electronics-talk] Windows versus Mac [was "RE: Question aboutTalking Scale"]
cheez
cheez at cox.net
Wed Sep 8 11:51:48 UTC 2010
Now I know why you're Constantly barefooted, Ray. You're a Mac User.
Ha, ha!
Vince
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ray Foret Jr" <rforetjr at comcast.net>
To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
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Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 1:09 AM
Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Windows versus Mac [was "RE: Question
aboutTalking Scale"]
> Jud,
>
> That is an excellent way to point out one of the things I just love about
> the Mac; the fact that one can, if necessary, do a completely hard
> formatting of the primary drive, and then, do a fresh OS install. All of
> it, accessibly. Another thing. Time machine beats all hell out of
> Windows system restore for both its accessibility and completeness of
> system restoration!!!
>
>
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>
> A Very Proud and Happy Mac User!!!
>
> E-Mail:
> rforetjr at comcast dot net
> Skype Name:
> barefootedray
>
> On Sep 8, 2010, at 2:33 AM, Jude DaShiell wrote:
>
> I suppose one could write up a braille list of keystrokes for any version
> of windows as it applies to their specific equipment set up and base the
> timing of each response on when the cd or dvd drive stops spinning in
> order to do a fresh reinstall of windows after accessibility has gone away
> but this is extremely painful as compared to the Macintosh installation
> process. Screen narrator won't work to help installation along since
> windows has to already be installed to load sound card drivers from any
> source and screen narrator won't work until after that driver has been
> installed and the sound card is working. I'll correct that last
> statement, screen narrator will work but won't provide any accessibility
> benefit when it does. Microsoft accessibility division could have chosen
> to first have people at home get dos talking and then had them use a dos
> version of msbatch to start creating an msbatch.inf file. Once that had
> started windows setup could have been called by the dos version of msbatch
> in a shell context and collected unanswered questions from windows setup
> and presented them to the accessibility installer and collected answers.
> Those answers if found to be in correct format and range could have
> appended onto msbatch.inf file and then windows setup could again have
> been run with the ammended msbatch.inf file to collect more questions and
> repeat the cycle until windows had enough answers to actually install.
> When that happened, if the accessibility installer was ready windows setup
> could have been run with the final version of msbatch.inf to do the
> install. Of course, this would have required a --dry-run or --simulate
> switch for windows setup to accommodate such accessibility but since
> Microsoft's accessibility division cannot go around Microsoft and tell
> other divisions how to do their programming none of this could ever have
> happened and has no possibility to happen in the future. So a first test
> I use for operating systems is "if I have to reinstall it with no vision
> or memory of vision by myself can I do it with provided accessibility
> tools?". The answer for windows 98se was yes for the time the braille
> paper with the response list hadn't got damaged but for XP, the answer for
> that question is no. That's why dos; Linux, and Snow Leopard are on most
> of the machines I use. The work machine has xp on it but xp and other
> versions of windows simply aren't nice enough to take home to meet the
> family in my case.On Tue, 7 Sep 2010, cheez wrote:
>
>> George, I don't mean to sound harsh, but, How?
>> Write me off list.
>> cheez at cox.net
>>
>> Vince
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jorge Paez" <jorgeapaez at mac.com>
>> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 6:33 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Windows versus Mac [was "RE: Question
>> about Talking Scale"]
>>
>>
>>> Christopher:
>>> although you may be able to get more powerful hardware, the Mac OS does
>>> consume less system resources, and run faster on less powerfull hardware
>>> then Windows.
>>>
>>> And, don't mean to come across as harsh, but rember this is an
>>> electronics
>>> list, so this topic is fine.
>>>
>>> Jorge
>>>
>>> On Sep 7, 2010, at 2:12 AM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
>>> > JAWS isn't going to run on a Mac. A Mac runs its own OS and comes
>>> > with > its
>>> > own screen reader, Voice Over, so you wouldn't need JAWS.
>>> > > I personally wouldn't worry about which OS more efficiently uses
>>> > > the > system
>>> > resources, since for example, you can get more powerful hardware
>>> > which > will
>>> > run Windows for less than what you could get on a Mac. Instead, I'd
>>> > look > at
>>> > what you want to do, which system would be better suited for that and
>>> > > other
>>> > factors, such as ease of use.
>>> > > I'd also suggest taking this discussion to a more appropriate list
>>> > > and > using
>>> > more descriptive subject lines.
>>> > > > --
>>> > Christopher
>>> > chaltain at gmail.com
>>> > > > -----Original Message-----
>>> > From: electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>> > [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Louis
>>> > Briones
>>> > Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 12:43 AM
>>> > To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
>>> > Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Question about Talking Scale
>>> > > Hello Everyone
>>> > I'm considering switching over from xp to Mac, given the reason that
>>> > I'm
>>> > finding out that Windows is to much of a resource hog, a friend have
>>> > > mention
>>> > > that you don't have to wory about someone getting into ones
>>> > > personal
>>> > business. My friend who lives one level below me has mention this
>>> > with > me
>>> > and has been encountering some problems with the windowos system,
>>> > even
>>> > though he doesn't use jaws. My question would jaws 10 or 11 work with
>>> > > Mac
>>> > desk top computers?
>>> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "cheez" <cheez at cox.net>
>>> > To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
>>> > <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> > Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 10:25 PM
>>> > Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Question about Talking Scale
>>> > > > > Reinstall JAWS, Louis.
>>> > > Vince
>>> > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Louis Briones" > >
>>> > > > > <cbandman1949 at surewest.net>
>>> > > To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
>>> > > <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> > > Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 7:09 PM
>>> > > Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Question about Talking Scale
>>> > > > > > > > Hello every one
>>> > > > I'm encountering some issue with jaws, to where when going into
>>> > > > the
>>> > > > system I can't highlite a paticular item that I want to find out
>>> > > > > > > about,
>>> > > > such as turning on Skype, for some reason that I have to unload
>>> > > > jaws > > > and
>>> > > > then turn it back on again, then go into the system tray and
>>> > > > there I > > > am
>>> > > > able to turn on the desire program. I could used to do this
>>> > > > without
>>> > > > restarting jaws. any help would be deeply appriceated thanks.
>>> > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Debbi Williamson" > > >
>>> > > > <debbi107 at atlanticbb.net>
>>> > > > To: "'Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances'"
>>> > > > <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> > > > Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010 7:00 PM
>>> > > > Subject: [Electronics-talk] Question about Talking Scale
>>> > > > > > > > > > > Hi, everyone,
>>> > > > > > > > > A friend of mine purchased the talking scale you all
>>> > > > > > > > > were talking > > > > about
>>> > > > > recently--the one from Independent Living Aids. Somehow, and
>>> > > > > she
>>> > > > > doesn't
>>> > > > > know how, she's got it speaking in German and can't figure out
>>> > > > > how > > > > to
>>> > > > > get it
>>> > > > > back to English. And, she can't find anything in the
>>> > > > > instructions > > > > to
>>> > > > > help.
>>> > > > > Any suggestions? Thanks.
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