[Electronics-talk] talking check writers
Jude DaShiell
jdashiel at shellworld.net
Thu Sep 9 21:29:43 UTC 2010
Simple, sighted people are giving up writing checks probably more than
blind people since they have and continue to take the brunt of the fraud
when checks don't get discovered as fraudulent in time. The story I read
about what has gotten to the point of serious problems with check use by
the way wasn't directed toward blind people nor meant for our consumption
either but directed at and meant primarily for sighted people.On Thu, 9
Sep 2010, ckrugman at sbcglobal.net wrote:
> being that I'm not paranoid about checks I wohn't worry and continue to write
> them. Yes, I have had checks forged in the past and since they had been
> reported stolen and there was appropriate documentation I was not liable for
> the fraud as is no one else when it occurs. There ar3e delays in determining
> a money order being cashed and I prefer having printed checkss showing my
> contact information. Why should I not do something because I am blind that
> sighted people do? That philosophy is insulting.
> Chuckabout
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jude DaShiell" <jdashiel at shellworld.net>
> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 11:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] talking check writers
>
>
>> It's a good idea especially for blind folks these days to discontinue use
>> of check writing entirely for security reasons if no other. No part of
>> anything written on checks has any tamper or forgery protection. This has
>> been the case for several years and even sighted people who write checks
>> routinely get ripped off badly. The M.I.C.R. ink and banking fonts are
>> available for purchase on the internet. Signatures are easily lifted and
>> copied onto anything else anyone wishes to do, thus making identity theft
>> all that much easier. That practice just has too many risks connected
>> with it. Postal Money orders work better than they once did now that the
>> new money order system is in place. It's also possible to have a tracer
>> put on a money order in case you don't get what you paid for to find out
>> where it is and what happened to it.On Fri, 23 Apr 2010,
>> ckrugman at sbcglobal.net wrote:
>>
>> > When you have time I would like to know about it.
>> > Chuck
>> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Debbi Williamson"
>> > <debbi107 at atlanticbb.net>
>> > To: "'Rob Tabor'" <rob.tabor at sbcglobal.net>; "'Discussion of accessible
>> > electronics and appliances'" <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> > Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 3:45 AM
>> > Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] talking check writers
>> >
>> >
>> > > I order checks from a company recommended by the developers of my
>> > > check-writing program. If you have the correct routing number for
>> > > your
>> > > bank
>> > > and the account number, that seems to be all that is important. I
>> > > use
>> > > the
>> > > talking checkbook program. Works great! Can't remember the name of
>> > > the
>> > > company right now but I am very happy with what I use. I can, at
>> > > another
>> > > time, look up the information, if you want.
>> > >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>> > > [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Rob Tabor
>> > > Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 6:56 AM
>> > > To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
>> > > Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] talking check writers
>> > >
>> > > Good morning.
>> > > It appears from these postings that computerized check writing is the
>> > > way
>> > > to
>> > > go for doing independent checkwriting once the software is configured
>> > > even
>> > > with sighted assistance if need be. However, it is quite likely one
>> > > would
>> > > have to have check blanks that conform to the bank's specifications
>> > > because
>> > > of specific information such as routing and transit numbers. Once the
>> > > check
>> > > blanks are customized to the check blank format of one's bank it
>> > > could
>> > > be
>> > > a
>> > > very dicy proposition as to whether the data entry fields would
>> > > physically
>> > > line up with the revised layout. Hopefully someone who has experience
>> > > with
>> > > this issue can enlighten us.
>> > > Best regards
>> > > Rob Tabor
>> > > Vice president Jayhawk Chapter NFB of Kansas
>> > >
>> > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > From: "Baracco, Andrew W" <Andrew.Baracco at va.gov>
>> > > To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
>> > > <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 11:15 AM
>> > > Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] talking check writers
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > > But there are just times when you have to write a check. When I
>> > > > used to
>> > > > rent, landlords would only accept payment by check. Also, groups
>> > > > like
>> > > > bowling leagues, blindness organizations, etc. expected payment by
>> > > > check. Also, there are individuals who do not use Paypal or online
>> > > > banking. I don't write nearly as many checks as I used to, but
>> > > > still
>> > > > have to write some.
>> > > >
>> > > > Many years ago, I was taught a method that involved using a manual
>> > > > typewriter, and setting up tabs so you could count tabs and rows.
>> > > > You
>> > > > had to be precise, and one mistake could screw up everything, but
>> > > > it
>> > > > actually worked most of the time, and I could check my work with an
>> > > > Optacon. Also, there was a typewriter lens attachment for the
>> > > > Optacon
>> > > > that would allow you to read as you were typing.
>> > > >
>> > > > Andy
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > > From: electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>> > > > [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Gerald
>> > > > Levy
>> > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 7:43 AM
>> > > > To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
>> > > > Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] talking check writers
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > To print individual checks on a printer requires a lot of sighted
>> > > > assistance
>> > > > to align the check properly. You could waste a whole checkbook
>> > > > trying
>> > > > to
>> > > > print all the fields on the check just right. Probably the best
>> > > > way
>> > > > to
>> > > > print individual checks is to use an old-fashioned manual
>> > > > typewriter, if
>> > > > you
>> > > > can find one, and tab to each field. But again, sighted help might
>> > > > be
>> > > > needed. Of course, you could always use a plastic check guide and
>> > > > fill
>> > > > in
>> > > > the fields by hand if you can write small enough and legible enough
>> > > > in
>> > > > the
>> > > > narrow slits. Thank goodness for online banking. I use JP Morgan
>> > > > Chase's
>> > > > online bill pay service , which is totally JAWS accessible, to pay
>> > > > most
>> > > > of
>> > > > my bills.
>> > > >
>> > > > Gerald
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: <ckrugman at sbcglobal.net>
>> > > > To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
>> > > > <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 10:00 AM
>> > > > Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] talking check writers
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > > There are check writing programs that can be installed on
>> > > > > computers
>> > > > and
>> > > > > the checks can be printed out on a computer printer. I don't know
>> > > > > how
>> > > > > accessible they are though.
>> > > > > Chuck
>> > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Shaw"
>> > > > > <tshaw2007 at hotmail.com>
>> > > > > To: <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> > > > > Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 5:16 PM
>> > > > > Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] talking check writers
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > honestly I would be afraid to use one, you are jus tasking
>> > > > > > someone to
>> > > >
>> > > > > > steal it and use it tot forge checks in your name
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > > From: stevencjohnson at centurytel.net
>> > > > > > > To: electronics-talk at nfbnet.org
>> > > > > > > Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2010 17:28:06 -0500
>> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] talking check writers
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Can anyone tell me if there is such thing as an automatic
>> > > > > > > check
>> > > > writer
>> > > > > > > that
>> > > > > > > you can write the check through a key pad and then print it
>> > > > > > > out?
>> > > > Thanks,
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
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