[Electronics-talk] Looking for an accessible android phone

Mon Aug 20 17:34:07 UTC 2012

Keep in mind that the present version of Siri is a beta version.  It's
very unusual that beta software would be included in a publically
released product, but what is usual about Apple? (SMILE)!
Andy

-----Original Message-----
From: electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
[mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jenny Keller
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 5:43 PM
To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Looking for an accessible android phone

Hi Jim and all,

I asked AT&T if Jelly Bean was even out, and they told me not yet on
their end.

the Android phones that I've seen that run Ice Cream Sandwich are much
more of a pain than I think they're worth.

I restored my iPhone 4S to factory settings and put all my junk back on
it.  Hopefully that will solve SIRI's attitude *smile*.  

I still have to re-download my apps again, but that's for another day
next week as my husband is going to be baptized tomorrow and I frankly
don't have the time or energy, or even, not to be a brat, but
inclination, to do it right now as you all can imagine.

If nothing else, I'll just wait till the new iPhone update to 6 comes
out and hope that SIRI's bugs have been fixed.

Have a great night and weekend.

Jenny
On Aug 17, 2012, at 10:13 AM, Jim Barbour wrote:

> So, we've moved far away from the original question which was 
> recomendations for an android phone.
> 
> I said some of this earlier, but I'll repeat it and add more here.
> 
> First, I highly recommend trying to make the iPhone work for you.  I 
> believe it really is the best option out there.
> 
> Next, if you really want to try out an android phone, look for one 
> that hsi running Jelly Bean.  The Jelly Bean version of talkBack now 
> has the "explore by touch" technology built into the phone, which 
> makes for a much nicer user experience for blind users.
> 
> As to which phone to get, I can recommend the "droid 4" phone, which 
> runs on Verizon.  For other carriers, you'll need to ask around.  Some

> things you'll care about are...
> 
>  * Does the phone have a physical keyboard, D-pad, joystick etc?  How
>    do they feel in your hand?
>    NOTE: you don't have to have these controls to use an android
>    phone running Jelly Bean, but it really will help.
>  * Does the phone run Jelly Bean?
>  * How is the phone's battery life?
> 
> Hope this helps,
> 
> Jim
> 
> On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 11:03:37AM -0400, Julie Phillipson wrote:
>> hay you can get ear buds that have different size covers for small, 
>> medium and large and they block out noise around you.  I get them for

>> 10 bucks at drug store.com.  They are like the old style ear bud that

>> goes into the ear not just sit at the opening of the ear.  Those 
>> other kind of buds hurt my ears too.
>> 
>> Julie Phillipson
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jenny Keller" 
>> <jlperdue3 at gmail.com>
>> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2012 12:50 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Looking for an accessible android 
>> phone
>> 
>> 
>>> I have very small ear connals, and very small ears that make it hard

>>> to find a bluetooth headset that fits properly that doesn't cost a
fortune.
>>> 
>>> I have one that sort of works, but it causes pain after wearing it 
>>> for any long periods of time.
>>> 
>>> Also, our bus terminal is in a fowl neighborhood and some of the 
>>> people who ride the bus are not the kind of people you'd want to let

>>> know that you have an iPhone 4S.
>>> 
>>> Love the joke though.
>>> 
>>> Jenny
>>> On Aug 15, 2012, at 2:14 PM, Baracco, Andrew W wrote:
>>> 
>>>> How can something on your head cause a pain in your behind? LOL!
>>>> Andy
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>> [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jenny 
>>>> Keller
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2012 7:09 PM
>>>> To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
>>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Looking for an accessible android 
>>>> phone
>>>> 
>>>> There are bugs on the iPhone 4S such as SIRI deciding to stop 
>>>> working and having to reset the phone at least twice a day.
>>>> 
>>>> there is also the bug that voiceover gets drowned out when you have

>>>> to push a number for the menus on phone things like press one for 
>>>> etc.  You can use a bluetooth or headset for that, but I don't like

>>>> to have anything on my head, so it's a pain in the behind.
>>>> 
>>>> Sometimes, when just using the touch screen itself, if you are on 
>>>> the contacts screen and you press contacts, it will flip to a blank
screen.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> things like that irritate me, and if I wanted a phone that didn't 
>>>> have the capacity for SIRI working correctly, I would've just 
>>>> gotten the iPhone 4 and not have had to spend the extra money, 
>>>> especially with the bug in voiceover that gets drowned out by the
speaker phone.
>>>> 
>>>> I called Apple Accessibility about both issues and they said they 
>>>> were bugs and that they couldn't do anything about it.
>>>> 
>>>> therefore, I have an upgrade available, and am seriously 
>>>> considering an android phone.  Though the Galaxy S3 turned out to 
>>>> be way ore complicated than it was worth.
>>>> 
>>>> Jenny
>>>> On Aug 13, 2012, at 5:28 PM, Jim Barbour wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hey Jenny,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm writing you back as I think my comments will be useful to
others.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I've been playing with various Android phones recently, and they 
>>>>> are slowly catching up with the iPhone, in terms of blindness
usability.
>>>>> 
>>>>> There are a few good reasons to go with an android phone, but you 
>>>>> should be aware of wha you're getting.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If you could tell us more about what you find frustrating about 
>>>>> the iPhone, we can help you figure out if Android will be a better

>>>>> solution.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Take Care,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jim
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 05:12:39PM -0500, Jenny Keller wrote:
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I am getting very frustrated with my iPhone 4S and looked at the
>>>> Galaxy 3s last week.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I found it to be more of a pain than it was worth.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I want an android that is at least Ice Cream Sandwich.  Any
>>>> suggestions, and I would appreciate it if you would give me reasons

>>>> and good points and even bad about the phone you suggest.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Please write me off list as to keep traffic down.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Jenny
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