[Electronics-talk] About to get new site for AT&T

Tim Shaw tshaw2007 at hotmail.com
Mon Jan 2 23:59:57 UTC 2012 

how about instead of everyone arguing over whether stuff is on topic and filling my mailbox with arguments I dont want to read, you let ndrew handle it
 

> Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 17:54:35 -0600
> From: chaltain at gmail.com
> To: electronics-talk at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] About to get new site for AT&T
> 
> According to the list's info page this list was intended primarily for
> consumer electronics and appliances. I'll post the description below. As
> Dave has already determined, where these appliances and consumer
> electronics pull in related services, such as web sites and cloud
> applications, they'll also be on topic. I don't think this means that
> any application or web service will automatically be on topic though,
> but only those that tie back to a piece of consumer electronics or
> appliance.
> 
> Although I understand where Dave is coming from, and he has my complete
> support, I hope this doesn't send us down a slippery slope. For example,
> there are plenty of mailing lists for the iPhone, and I'd hate to see
> this list get swamped with messages about the AppStore, iCloud and the
> like. I'd still like to be able to hear about consumer electronics other
> than the iPhone. BTW, I'm just using the iPhone as an example, although
> it is true that I don't yet own any devices from Apple.
> 
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> discussion of the accessibility of various consumer electronics devices.
> Sharing of information about, and discussion of MP3 players; cell phones
> and other telephones; DVD players, receivers and other stereo and video
> components; satellite and HD radios; and household appliances including
> microwaves, washers, dryers, stoves, and the like; is appropriate and
> encouraged. With more and more devices having inaccessible controls or
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> 
> On 02/01/12 17:36, Chris Nusbaum wrote:
> > I agree that Dave should decide this one. I'm a little confused now as
> > well, as I'm new to this list: does "electronics," that is, technology
> > which is allowed to be discussed on this list, include software or
> > computer applications/programs like uVerse or Sirius XM Streamer?
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Chris
> > 
> > Merry Christmas and a happy and prosperous new year!
> > 
> > "The real problem of blindness is not the loss of eyesight. The real
> > problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that exists. If a
> > blind person has the proper training and opportunity, blindness can be
> > reduced to a mere physical nuisance."
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> > 
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> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Ray Foret Jr <rforetjr at att.net
> > To: Discussion of accessible electronics and
> > appliances<electronics-talk at nfbnet.org
> > Date sent: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 15:48:19 -0600
> > Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] About to get new site for AT&T
> > 
> > Well, to fill you in, as someone else did already, AT&T U-Verse is a
> > service which normally consists of TV, internet and phone service. 
> > There are many aspects of this service which fall inside the purview of
> > this list. However, I'd like to have Dave chime in on this one so we
> > can get some kind of direction here.
> > 
> > As for the Mac lists, frankly, I don't think it's a Mac question as
> > such. Nothing wrong with mentioning the mac here anyway; in the proper
> > context that is.
> > 
> > 
> > Sincerely,
> > The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
> > 
> > Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
> > 
> > Skype name:
> > barefootedray
> > 
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> > facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Jan 2, 2012, at 3:09 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
> > 
> > It seems off topic to me since it seems like we're talking about a web
> > site and a service as opposed to a piece of electronics, but maybe I
> > don't know what AT&T Uverse is. Either way, it isn't my call.
> > 
> > Since it seems like we're talking about a web site becoming
> > inaccessible, at least to Mac users and Safari, I'd suggest asking it on
> > a blind Mac user's list. Even if it is on topic for this list, a blind
> > Mac users list may get to a wider and more pertinent audience.
> > 
> > On 02/01/12 12:31, Chris Nusbaum wrote:
> > I don't think this is OT, but then again, I'm not Dave and have no
> > control over what's OT and what's not. This list is the self-described
> > "discussion of accessible electronics and appliances," so I think AT and
> > T Uverse falls into that category.
> > 
> > Chris
> > 
> > Merry Christmas and a happy and prosperous new year!
> > 
> > "The real problem of blindness is not the loss of eyesight. The real
> > problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that exists. If a
> > blind person has the proper training and opportunity, blindness can be
> > reduced to a mere physical nuisance."
> > -- Kenneth Jernigan (President, National Federation of the Blind, 1968-1986
> > 
> > The I C.A.N. Foundation helps blind and visually impaired youth in
> > Maryland say "I can," by empowering them through providing assistive
> > technology and scholarships to camps and conventions which help them be
> > equal with their sighted peers. For more information about the
> > Foundation and to support our work, visit us online at
> > www.icanfoundation.info!
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Ray Foret Jr <rforetjr at att.net
> > To: Discussion of accessible electronics and
> > appliances<electronics-talk at nfbnet.org
> > Date sent: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 09:26:33 -0600
> > Subject: [Electronics-talk] About to get new site for AT&T
> > 
> > To all AT&T U-verse subscribers on here. This morning, it appears they
> > are making major changes to their account management web site. Who
> > knows what will happen when the new design is brought online. Will it
> > be worse or better for us? I imagine that which ever one of us sees the
> > changes first will report back to the rest on the findings.
> > PS. Dave, sorry if this seems a little bit OT; but, after all, this
> > seems to be the list where AT&T U-verse matters find their way in to
> > discussion among blind subscribers of the service. IF you know a more
> > appropriate venue, please do not hesitate to suggest it. thanks.
> > 
> > 
> > Sincerely,
> > The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
> > 
> > Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
> > 
> > Skype name:
> > barefootedray
> > 
> > Facebook:
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> > 
> > 
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