[Electronics-talk] About to get new site for AT&T

Mon Jan 2 23:54:35 UTC 2012

According to the list's info page this list was intended primarily for
consumer electronics and appliances. I'll post the description below. As
Dave has already determined, where these appliances and consumer
electronics pull in related services, such as web sites and cloud
applications, they'll also be on topic. I don't think this means that
any application or web service will automatically be on topic though,
but only those that tie back to a piece of consumer electronics or
appliance.

Although I understand where Dave is coming from, and he has my complete
support, I hope this doesn't send us down a slippery slope. For example,
there are plenty of mailing lists for the iPhone, and I'd hate to see
this list get swamped with messages about the AppStore, iCloud and the
like. I'd still like to be able to hear about consumer electronics other
than the iPhone. BTW, I'm just using the iPhone as an example, although
it is true that I don't yet own any devices from Apple.

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On 02/01/12 17:36, Chris Nusbaum wrote:
> I agree that Dave should decide this one.  I'm a little confused now as
> well, as I'm new to this list: does "electronics," that is, technology
> which is allowed to be discussed on this list, include software or
> computer applications/programs like uVerse or Sirius XM Streamer?
> Thanks,
> 
> Chris
> 
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ray Foret Jr <rforetjr at att.net
> To: Discussion of accessible electronics and
> appliances<electronics-talk at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 15:48:19 -0600
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] About to get new site for AT&T
> 
> Well, to fill you in, as someone else did already, AT&T U-Verse is a
> service which normally consists of TV, internet and phone service. 
> There are many aspects of this service which fall inside the purview of
> this list.  However, I'd like to have Dave chime in on this one so we
> can get some kind of direction here.
> 
> As for the Mac lists, frankly, I don't think it's a Mac question as
> such.  Nothing wrong with mentioning the mac here anyway; in the proper
> context that is.
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
> 
> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
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> 
> On Jan 2, 2012, at 3:09 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
> 
> It seems off topic to me since it seems like we're talking about a web
> site and a service as opposed to a piece of electronics, but maybe I
> don't know what AT&T Uverse is.  Either way, it isn't my call.
> 
> Since it seems like we're talking about a web site becoming
> inaccessible, at least to Mac users and Safari, I'd suggest asking it on
> a blind Mac user's list.  Even if it is on topic for this list, a blind
> Mac users list may get to a wider and more pertinent audience.
> 
> On 02/01/12 12:31, Chris Nusbaum wrote:
> I don't think this is OT, but then again, I'm not Dave and have no
> control over what's OT and what's not.  This list is the self-described
> "discussion of accessible electronics and appliances," so I think AT and
> T Uverse falls into that category.
> 
> Chris
> 
> Merry Christmas and a happy and prosperous new year!
> 
> "The real problem of blindness is not the loss of eyesight.  The real
> problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that exists.  If a
> blind person has the proper training and opportunity, blindness can be
> reduced to a mere physical nuisance."
> -- Kenneth Jernigan (President, National Federation of the Blind, 1968-1986
> 
> The I C.A.N.  Foundation helps blind and visually impaired youth in
> Maryland say "I can," by empowering them through providing assistive
> technology and scholarships to camps and conventions which help them be
> equal with their sighted peers.  For more information about the
> Foundation and to support our work, visit us online at
> www.icanfoundation.info!
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ray Foret Jr <rforetjr at att.net
> To: Discussion of accessible electronics and
> appliances<electronics-talk at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 09:26:33 -0600
> Subject: [Electronics-talk] About to get new site for AT&T
> 
> To all AT&T U-verse subscribers on here.  This morning, it appears they
> are making major changes to their account management web site.  Who
> knows what will happen when the new design is brought online.  Will it
> be worse or better for us?  I imagine that which ever one of us sees the
> changes first will report back to the rest on the findings.
> PS.  Dave, sorry if this seems a little bit OT; but, after all, this
> seems to be the list where AT&T U-verse matters find their way in to
> discussion among blind subscribers of the service.  IF you know a more
> appropriate venue, please do not hesitate to suggest it.  thanks.
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
> 
> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
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> barefootedray
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> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
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> 
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