[Electronics-talk] question about Sirius XM Internet Radio
Chris Nusbaum
dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com
Sun Jan 8 21:19:24 UTC 2012
What about ADA?
Chris
"The real problem of blindness is not the loss of eyesight. The
real problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that
exists. If a blind person has the proper training and
opportunity, blindness can be reduced to a mere physical
nuisance."
-- Kenneth Jernigan
----- Original Message -----
From: David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com
To: Discussion of accessible electronics and
appliances<electronics-talk at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Sun, 08 Jan 2012 15:12:43 -0600
Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] question about Sirius XM Internet
Radio
Chris: Jude is not correct, section 508 has nothing to do with
this. If anything applies -- and I am not sure how much it does,
it
would be section 255 of the telecommunications act, and it
wouldn't
cover the web site.
Dave
At 02:53 PM 1/8/2012, you wrote:
Dave,
OK, good. So if what Jude explained about them being under
Section
508 is correct, then we can probably use that to get them to
change
their Web site. Has the Federation done anything about this
since
we passed that resolution in 2010? By the way, you mentioned
section
225 of some other law (I can't remember what it was called.) What
is
the language in that law?
Chris
"The real problem of blindness is not the loss of eyesight. The
real problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that
exists. If a blind person has the proper training and
opportunity,
blindness can be reduced to a mere physical nuisance."
-- Kenneth Jernigan
----- Original Message -----
From: David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com
To: Discussion of accessible electronics and
appliances<electronics-talk at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Sun, 08 Jan 2012 13:24:53 -0600
Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] question about Sirius XM Internet
Radio
Chris, you are correct that they don't have control over content,
but
they do have some control, they allocate the frequencies that are
used etc.
Dave
At 02:49 PM 1/6/2012, you wrote:
I don't think the FCC would have any control over Sirius XM, as
it
is a private company that is subscriber-based, but don't quote me
on
that. I think that's why Howard Stern and other Sirius XM hosts
are
able to speak on their shows without any kind of sensor or filter
on
their words. * Smile!
Chris
"The real problem of blindness is not the loss of eyesight. The
real problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that
exists. If a blind person has the proper training and
opportunity,
blindness can be reduced to a mere physical nuisance."
-- Kenneth Jernigan
----- Original Message -----
From: Jude DaShiell <jdashiel at shellworld.net
To: Discussion of accessible electronics and
appliances<electronics-talk at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 12:20:26 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] question about Sirius XM Internet
Radio
Please file an official complaint with the F.C.C. and include
Section 508
violations in that complaint. That will get attention. I don't
think
jamal maxzrui is on this list, but he does work at the f.c.c.
and is
interested in things like this.On Tue, 3 Jan 2012, Brett Boyer
wrote:
Well don't hold your breath waiting for that. It has been an
ongoing problem
and as far as I know even the iphone app which was somewhat
accessible has
changed since the update and now is almost completely
nonaccessible. I
subscribed to sirius for Howard Stern and as soon as I found an
online
alternative and realized how difficult the sirius website was to
navigate I
unsubscribed. When I talked to the people and explained why I
was
unsubscribing they had no clue what I was talking about and put
bad reception
as my reason of cancelation.
bb
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Nusbaum"
<dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com
To: "Discussion of accessible electronics andappliances"
<electronics-talk at nfbnet.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 4:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] question about Sirius XM Internet
Radio
I have the Starmate 5 receiver, and I agree with your friend that
it is
pretty usable, as has been said before. However, there are some
features to
the radios which aren't available to us; reading the song title
and artist,
the channel name and number, and reading the call-in number for
the channel
you are listening to (if that channel has one,) as this
information is
displayed on the
screen of the radio for sighted people. All the on-screen menus
and channel
look-up features of the radio are also inaccessible. There is a
work-around
to the channel lookup feature, which is to go to the program
guide channel
(channel 184 on Sirius) and listening for the channel name and
number you
want. However, this isn't near as fast as it would be for
sighted people to
just look up the channel in the menu. For example, one day I
couldn't
remember the channel number of a channel that I wanted to listen
to, and
went to the program guide channel, but had to wait for them to go
through
the whole programming lineup (probably a half an hour at least)
just to hear
the channel number for one channel, when I could have been
listening to
something far more interesting! Their Web site isn't accessible
either, so
they leave a lot to be desired for us, and when talking to tech
support
about this issue, it was as if I was talking to myself, as the
guy was
outsourced from India or somewhere and spoke very broken English.
So he had
no idea what I was talking about. I really hope the NFB acts on
that
resolution from last year, if we haven't done so already, and I
just didn't
know about it.
Chris
"The real problem of blindness is not the loss of eyesight. The
real
problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that
exists. If a
blind person has the proper training and opportunity, blindness
can be
reduced to a mere physical nuisance."
-- Kenneth Jernigan
----- Original Message -----
From: "cheez" <cheez at cox.net
To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and
appliances"<electronics-talk at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 22:17:33 -0700
Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] question about Sirius XM Internet
Radio
A friend has the Starmate 4, bought at Radio Shack 4 years ago.
He is total
and says it's pretty friendly.
Vince
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Andrews" <dandrews at visi.com
To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
<electronics-talk at nfbnet.org
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 7:59 PM
Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] question about Sirius XM Internet
Radio
Most of the satellite radio receivers are usable, that is you can
move
from channel to channel, go directly to a channel, and the like.
However
many of the features of the radios are not available to us.
Each channel
gives its number and name, each song and band are named, and some
receivers have features to group things by genre etc. There also
may be
menu-based settings for tone etc., which are not accessible. I
do not
know of any satellite radio that turns the info on the display
screen of
the unit into speech or Braille.
So, as I say they are usable, but not completely accessible.
Dave
At 07:31 PM 1/2/2012, you wrote:
The receivers themselves are pretty accessible, I was asking
about
Internet radio.
Chris
Merry Christmas and a happy and prosperous new year!
"The real problem of blindness is not the loss of eyesight. The
real
problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that
exists. If a
blind person has the proper training and opportunity, blindness
can be
reduced to a mere physical nuisance."
-- Kenneth Jernigan (President, National Federation of the Blind,
1968-1986
The I C.A.N. Foundation helps blind and visually impaired youth
in
Maryland say "I can," by empowering them through providing
assistive
technology and scholarships to camps and conventions which help
them be
equal with their sighted peers. For more information about the
Foundation
and to support our work, visit us online at
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----- Original Message -----
From: "cheez" <cheez at cox.net
To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and
appliances"<electronics-talk at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 18:13:02 -0700
Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] question about Sirius XM Internet
Radio
At that time, I was told it was. I don't know about now.
The one thing I found annoying was, each time I signed in, I'd
have to
enter
the code of a captcha. And since I had no one sighted around to
read it
to
me, That made me decide to forget it. The verbal code never
worked for me
either.
Again. That was 3 years ago. I haven't tried since so it may be
different
now.
I have a friend that just got a sat radio for Christmas that is
pretty
accessible. I'll ask him what the model is and share.
Vince
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Nusbaum" <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com
To: "Discussion of accessible electronics andappliances"
<electronics-talk at nfbnet.org
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 11:31 AM
Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] question about Sirius XM Internet
Radio
Hi Vince,
So the app is accessible?
Chris
Merry Christmas and a happy and prosperous new year!
"The real problem of blindness is not the loss of eyesight. The
real
problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that
exists. If a
blind person has the proper training and opportunity, blindness
can be
reduced to a mere physical nuisance."
-- Kenneth Jernigan (President, National Federation of the Blind,
1968-1986
The I C.A.N. Foundation helps blind and visually impaired youth
in
Maryland say "I can," by empowering them through providing
assistive
technology and scholarships to camps and conventions which help
them be
equal with their sighted peers. For more information about the
Foundation
and to support our work, visit us online at
www.icanfoundation.info!
----- Original Message -----
From: "cheez" <cheez at cox.net
To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and
appliances"<electronics-talk at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 10:08:24 -0700
Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] question about Sirius XM Internet
Radio
I tried subscribing about 3 years ago and I had trouble getting
it to work
for me. I was also disappointed when I found out that some shows
weren't
available online. So I canceled and asked for a refund--which
they said
wasn't refundable.
Hopefully they've changed. I think most folks are using iPhones
and other
cellphones to listen to sat radio now.
Vince
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Riehl" <realman02 at comcast.net
To: "'Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances'"
<electronics-talk at nfbnet.org
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 10:01 AM
Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] question about Sirius XM Internet
Radio
Chris, it's very nice to meet you. Welcome to the list!
I'm also interested in the question of XM on-line accessibility.
I have never heard of Sirius XM Streamer, so I'd love to hear
some
comments
on its accessibility.
Again, welcome to the List, Chris -- and Happy New Year!
John
John Riehl
-----Original Message-----
From: electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
[mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Chris
Nusbaum
Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2012 1:54 PM
To: electronics-talk at nfbnet.org
Subject: [Electronics-talk] question about Sirius XM Internet
Radio
Hi everyone,
First of all, I want to wish everyone on this list a very happy
new year and say that I am new to this list! I'm 14 years old and
am in 8th grade in public school here in Maryland. You have
probably seen me on other NFB lists, the NABS (National
Association of Blind Students) or Blind Talk list, as I'm very
active in the Federation. With that said, I have a question
about Sirius XM Internet radio and accessibility. Has anyone
found a work-around to using Sirius XM's online radio service
with JAWS? It seems to be inaccessible to me, at least the one on
siriusxm.com. I have heard about a program called Sirius XM
Streamer which makes the internet stream accessible. But how
does it work? Thanks for any help!
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