[Electronics-talk] question about Sirius XM Internet Radio

Jude DaShiell jdashiel at shellworld.net
Wed Jan 11 01:33:41 UTC 2012 

I put a contact through to Jamal Mazrui and he wrote back thanking me 
for the f.y.i. and copied my message to a couple colleagues of his to 
find out if the F.C.C. could do anything about this.  So far I've got no 
further information from that source.

On Sun, 8 Jan 2012, Chris Nusbaum wrote:

> Dave,
> 
> OK, good.  So if what Jude explained about them being under Section 508 is
> correct, then we can probably use that to get them to change their Web site.
> Has the Federation done anything about this since we passed that resolution in
> 2010? By the way, you mentioned section 225 of some other law (I can't
> remember what it was called.) What is the language in that law?
> 
> Chris
> 
> "The real problem of blindness is not the loss of eyesight.  The real problem
> is the misunderstanding and lack of education that exists.  If a blind person
> has the proper training and opportunity, blindness can be reduced to a mere
> physical nuisance."
> -- Kenneth Jernigan
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: David Andrews <dandrews at visi.com
> To: Discussion of accessible electronics and
> appliances<electronics-talk at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Sun, 08 Jan 2012 13:24:53 -0600
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] question about Sirius XM Internet Radio
> 
> Chris, you are correct that they don't have control over content, but
> they do have some control, they allocate the frequencies that are used etc.
> 
> Dave
> 
> At 02:49 PM 1/6/2012, you wrote:
> I don't think the FCC would have any control over Sirius XM, as it
> is a private company that is subscriber-based, but don't quote me on
> that.  I think that's why Howard Stern and other Sirius XM hosts are
> able to speak on their shows without any kind of sensor or filter on
> their words.  * Smile!
> 
> Chris
> 
> "The real problem of blindness is not the loss of eyesight.  The
> real problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that
> exists.  If a blind person has the proper training and opportunity,
> blindness can be reduced to a mere physical nuisance."
> -- Kenneth Jernigan
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jude DaShiell <jdashiel at shellworld.net
> To: Discussion of accessible electronics and
> appliances<electronics-talk at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 12:20:26 -0500 (EST)
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] question about Sirius XM Internet Radio
> 
> Please file an official complaint with the F.C.C.  and include Section 508
> violations in that complaint.  That will get attention.  I don't think
> jamal maxzrui is on this list, but he does work at the f.c.c.
> and is
> interested in things like this.On Tue, 3 Jan 2012, Brett Boyer wrote:
> 
> Well don't hold your breath waiting for that.  It has been an ongoing problem
> and as far as I know even the iphone app which was somewhat accessible has
> changed since the update and now is almost completely nonaccessible.  I
> subscribed to sirius for Howard Stern and as soon as I found an online
> alternative and realized how difficult the sirius website was to
> navigate I
> unsubscribed.  When I talked to the people and explained why I was
> unsubscribing they had no clue what I was talking about and put bad reception
> as my reason of cancelation.
> bb
> Brett Boyer
> Audio Production and voice over
> http://brettboyer.voices.com
> Brett Boyer's Big Bag of Goodies!
> Check out my radio show at my new home:
> http://www.mushroomfm.com/brettboyer
> every Monday 5 o'clock eastern 2 o'clock pacific
> Listen to the Shroom live!
> http://listen.mushroomfm.com:8760/listen.pls
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Nusbaum" <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com
> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics andappliances"
> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org
> Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 4:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] question about Sirius XM Internet Radio
> 
> 
> I have the Starmate 5 receiver, and I agree with your friend that it is
> pretty usable, as has been said before.  However, there are some features to
> the radios which aren't available to us; reading the song title and artist,
> the channel name and number, and reading the call-in number for the channel
> you are listening to (if that channel has one,) as this information is
> displayed on the
> screen of the radio for sighted people.  All the on-screen menus and channel
> look-up features of the radio are also inaccessible.  There is a work-around
> to the channel lookup feature, which is to go to the program guide channel
> (channel 184 on Sirius) and listening for the channel name and number you
> want.  However, this isn't near as fast as it would be for sighted people to
> just look up the channel in the menu.  For example, one day I couldn't
> remember the channel number of a channel that I wanted to listen to, and
> went to the program guide channel, but had to wait for them to go through
> the whole programming lineup (probably a half an hour at least) just to hear
> the channel number for one channel, when I could have been listening to
> something far more interesting! Their Web site isn't accessible either, so
> they leave a lot to be desired for us, and when talking to tech support
> about this issue, it was as if I was talking to myself, as the guy was
> outsourced from India or somewhere and spoke very broken English.  So he had
> no idea what I was talking about.  I really hope the NFB acts on that
> resolution from last year, if we haven't done so already, and I just didn't
> know about it.
> 
> Chris
> 
> "The real problem of blindness is not the loss of eyesight.  The real
> problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that exists.  If a
> blind person has the proper training and opportunity, blindness can be
> reduced to a mere physical nuisance."
> -- Kenneth Jernigan
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "cheez" <cheez at cox.net
> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and
> appliances"<electronics-talk at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 22:17:33 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] question about Sirius XM Internet Radio
> 
> A friend has the Starmate 4, bought at Radio Shack 4 years ago.
> He is total
> and says it's pretty friendly.
> Vince
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Andrews" <dandrews at visi.com
> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org
> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 7:59 PM
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] question about Sirius XM Internet Radio
> 
> 
> Most of the satellite radio receivers are usable, that is you can move
> from channel to channel, go directly to a channel, and the like.
> However
> many of the features of the radios are not available to us.
> Each channel
> gives its number and name, each song and band are named, and some
> receivers have features to group things by genre etc.  There also may be
> menu-based settings for tone etc., which are not accessible.  I do not
> know of any satellite radio that turns the info on the display screen of
> the unit into speech or Braille.
> 
> So, as I say they are usable, but not completely accessible.
> 
> Dave
> 
> At 07:31 PM 1/2/2012, you wrote:
> The receivers themselves are pretty accessible, I was asking about
> Internet radio.
> 
> Chris
> 
> Merry Christmas and a happy and prosperous new year!
> 
> "The real problem of blindness is not the loss of eyesight.  The real
> problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that exists.  If a
> blind person has the proper training and opportunity, blindness can be
> reduced to a mere physical nuisance."
> -- Kenneth Jernigan (President, National Federation of the Blind,
> 1968-1986
> 
> The I C.A.N.  Foundation helps blind and visually impaired youth in
> Maryland say "I can," by empowering them through providing assistive
> technology and scholarships to camps and conventions which help them be
> equal with their sighted peers.  For more information about the Foundation
> and to support our work, visit us online at www.icanfoundation.info!
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "cheez" <cheez at cox.net
> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and
> appliances"<electronics-talk at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 18:13:02 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] question about Sirius XM Internet Radio
> 
> At that time, I was told it was.  I don't know about now.
> The one thing I found annoying was, each time I signed in, I'd have to
> enter
> the code of a captcha.  And since I had no one sighted around to read it
> to
> me, That made me decide to forget it.  The verbal code never worked for me
> either.
> Again.  That was 3 years ago.  I haven't tried since so it may be
> different
> now.
> I have a friend that just got a sat radio for Christmas that is pretty
> accessible.  I'll ask him what the model is and share.
> Vince
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chris Nusbaum" <dotkid.nusbaum at gmail.com
> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics andappliances"
> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org
> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 11:31 AM
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] question about Sirius XM Internet Radio
> 
> 
> Hi Vince,
> 
> So the app is accessible?
> 
> Chris
> 
> Merry Christmas and a happy and prosperous new year!
> 
> "The real problem of blindness is not the loss of eyesight.  The real
> problem is the misunderstanding and lack of education that exists.  If a
> blind person has the proper training and opportunity, blindness can be
> reduced to a mere physical nuisance."
> -- Kenneth Jernigan (President, National Federation of the Blind,
> 1968-1986
> 
> The I C.A.N.  Foundation helps blind and visually impaired youth in
> Maryland say "I can," by empowering them through providing assistive
> technology and scholarships to camps and conventions which help them be
> equal with their sighted peers.  For more information about the Foundation
> and to support our work, visit us online at www.icanfoundation.info!
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "cheez" <cheez at cox.net
> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and
> appliances"<electronics-talk at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 10:08:24 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] question about Sirius XM Internet Radio
> 
> I tried subscribing about 3 years ago and I had trouble getting it to work
> for me.  I was also disappointed when I found out that some shows weren't
> available online.  So I canceled and asked for a refund--which they said
> wasn't refundable.
> Hopefully they've changed.  I think most folks are using iPhones and other
> cellphones to listen to sat radio now.
> Vince
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Riehl" <realman02 at comcast.net
> To: "'Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances'"
> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org
> Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 10:01 AM
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] question about Sirius XM Internet Radio
> 
> 
> Chris, it's very nice to meet you.  Welcome to the list!
> I'm also interested in the question of XM on-line accessibility.
> 
> I have never heard of Sirius XM Streamer, so I'd love to hear some
> comments
> on its accessibility.
> Again, welcome to the List, Chris -- and Happy New Year!
>  John
> 
> John Riehl
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
> [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Chris Nusbaum
> Sent: Sunday, January 01, 2012 1:54 PM
> To: electronics-talk at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [Electronics-talk] question about Sirius XM Internet Radio
> 
> Hi everyone,
> 
> First of all, I want to wish everyone on this list a very happy
> new year and say that I am new to this list! I'm 14 years old and
> am in 8th grade in public school here in Maryland.  You have
> probably seen me on other NFB lists, the NABS (National
> Association of Blind Students) or Blind Talk list, as I'm very
> active in the Federation.  With that said, I have a question
> about Sirius XM Internet radio and accessibility.  Has anyone
> found a work-around to using Sirius XM's online radio service
> with JAWS? It seems to be inaccessible to me, at least the one on
> siriusxm.com.  I have heard about a program called Sirius XM
> Streamer which makes the internet stream accessible.  But how
> does it work? Thanks for any help!
> 
> Chris
> 
> Merry Christmas and a happy and prosperous new year!
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Electronics-talk mailing list
> Electronics-talk at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/electronics-talk_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> Electronics-talk:
> 
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/electronics-talk_nfbnet.org/che
> ez%40cox.net
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Electronics-talk mailing list
> Electronics-talk at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/electronics-talk_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> Electronics-talk:
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/electronics-talk_nfbnet.org/dot
> kid.nusbaum%40gmail.com
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Electronics-talk mailing list
> Electronics-talk at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/electronics-talk_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> Electronics-talk:
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/electronics-talk_nfbnet.org/bbo
> yer202%40gmail.com
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Electronics-talk mailing list
> Electronics-talk at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/electronics-talk_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> Electronics-talk:
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/electronics-talk_nfbnet.org/jda
> shiel%40shellworld.net
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Electronics-talk mailing list
> Electronics-talk at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/electronics-talk_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> Electronics-talk:
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/electronics-talk_nfbnet.org/dot
> kid.nusbaum%40gmail.com
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Electronics-talk mailing list
> Electronics-talk at nfbnet.org
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/electronics-talk_nfbnet.org
> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
> Electronics-talk:
> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/electronics-talk_nfbnet.org/jdashiel%40shellworld.net
> 
> 
> 

----------------------------------------------------------------
Jude <jdashiel-at-shellworld-dot-net>
<http://www.shellworld.net/~jdashiel/nj.html>

More information about the Electronics-Talk mailing list