[Electronics-talk] Mac computers

Tue Jul 3 01:58:39 UTC 2012

Thanks Ray, this came at the right time.  I just got one of the brand 
new MacBook Pros, with Retina display etc., today at work.  Will dual 
boot it with Windows, as I need access to both, but can work with my 
own Mac for a change.  It is incredibly thin.

Dave

At 09:26 PM 7/1/2012, you wrote:
>Well Beverly, don't give up yet at all.  I myself have a Mac and can 
>at once directly advise you on one of the best places to start 
>picking up the basics.  First, do what I did.  go to:
>www.blindcooltech.com
>and, using the search feature, look for the "Mac demo" podcasts, 
>without the quotes.
>
>Now, I'll give you some help right here which will perhaps ease your 
>mind a little.  First of all, and most importantly, don't try to 
>learn everything at once.  It just aint gonna happen.  Take it from 
>a former windows user; it just ain't.  First, you may have already 
>noticed that to navigate using voice Over, you will most often use 
>what are called the Voice Over keys.  This is a special combination 
>of the control and option keys.  To refresh your memory.  Just 
>immediately to the right and left of your space bar are your command 
>keys.  You will use these when navigating the web.  Just past the 
>command keys, you will find the option keys.  The control keys are 
>next farthest from the space bar.  Now, if you're using a lap top, 
>(such as I am), you will only have one control key on the 
>left.  That is a bit aquard at first, but you get used to it.
>
>Now, to navigate with Voice Over, you will press the 
>control+Option+up down left or right arrow keys.  So, when I say 
>press VO+space, you will know that I mean for you to press 
>control+option+space.  Okay.
>
>Now, I need to explain a little about interaction.  The best 
>explanation I've ever seen for this concept can be found in the 
>December 2009 Braille Monitor.  Let's say you have a container with 
>things in it.  By default, Voice Over navigates only the outer 
>surface of the container; however, you need to look more closely at 
>its contents.  How do you do this?  You do what's called 
>interacting.  How?  Just press VO+shift+down to start this 
>process.  Sounds like a lot of keys at first; but, trust me.  The 
>more you let yourself go and do it, the less you'll think about 
>it.  Now, to stop interacting with something, just press 
>VO+shift+up.  YOu will be told when interaction has started and stopped.
>
>Here's some additional help to get you up and running.
>
>Now that we've got that out of the way, you can activate the Voice 
>Over quick start.  How do you do this?  Just press 
>VO+command+F8.  The  tutorial will begin.  Just do what it says 
>to.  The tutorial covers everything I just told you about.
>         Now, pay close attention to my next piece of advise 
> PLEASE.  Don't give up right away.  There's a bit of a learning 
> curb here and you should allow yourself at a minimum three weeks to 
> get your head and hands around it.  Believe me.  It took me no less 
> than two weeks to get the hang of it.
>
>Now, some further input.
>
>You may find it better to use the track pad commander.  You know how 
>to use your Iphone right?  Well, You can use the Mac Track Pad 
>commander in a very similar type of way.  Here's how to turn it on.
>
>Just press VO and with two fingers on the track pad, make the rotary 
>motion like you do with your Iphone.  Do this to the right; 
>clockwise.  That will turn on your track pad commander.
>
>Here's yet another tip.  Want active keyboard help?  Then just press 
>VO+k.  Now, you can explore all Voice Over commands to your hearts 
>content without messing anything up.  How to turn off keyboard 
>help?  Just press escape.
>
>Now, subscribe to this list for further
>macvisionaries+subscribe at googlegroups.com
>
>HTH.
>
>
>Sincerely,
>The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>
>Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>
>Skype name:
>barefootedray
>
>On Jul 1, 2012, at 8:55 PM, beverly heninger wrote:
>
> > Hi There,
> > I am wondering if there is a Email list for blind people and Mac. 
> computers?
> > I have a new one, and even though I am taking lessons at a Apple 
> store, they do not know anything about voice over either. I am 
> advancing I still get very upset and just want to go back to my P.C.
> > Does anyone have any suggestions? I know the best people to learn 
> from is other blind people.
> >
> >                       Thanks, Beverly 
> -------------------------------------------------
> > From: "Ray Foret Jr" <rforetjr at att.net>
> > Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2012 5:26 AM
> > To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances" 
> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] HD radio
> >
> >> 1.  Much better sound.
> >>
> >> 2.  no noise in sound at all.  Very like CD.
> >>
> >> 3.  IF the radio is set up to read it, the on display 
> information is sometimes useful, if the station is broadcasting it.
> >>
> >>
> >> Sincerely,
> >> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
> >>
> >> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
> >>
> >> Skype name:
> >> barefootedray
> >>
> >> On Jul 1, 2012, at 1:27 AM, Lauren Merryfield wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi,
> >>> What are the advantages of HD radio?
> >>> Thanks
> >>> Lauren
> >>>
> >>> advice from my cats: "meow when you feel like it."
> >>> The most basic of all human needs is the need to understand and be
> >>> understood. The best way to understand people is to listen to them.
> >>> -- Ralph Nichols
> >>> Visit us at catliness.com
> >>>
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