[Electronics-talk] First User Review of Narrator HD Radio

James Aldrich jajkaldrich at gmail.com
Wed Jul 11 18:10:58 UTC 2012 

Hi Ray and all,

I will write you privately about afew things later. For the rest of you, do listen to Ray's presentation!

Jim

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 10, 2012, at 9:43 PM, Ray Foret Jr <rforetjr at att.net> wrote:

> Thanks Jim.
> 
> The program I put together has generally been well received, and, I felt that it was necessary to be honest about both what I liked about the radio and now love as well as areas I found which could perhaps stand improvement.
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
> 
> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
> 
> Skype name:
> barefootedray
> 
> On Jul 10, 2012, at 10:31 PM, James Aldrich wrote:
> 
>> Hi again!
>> 
>> As I stated earlier, my Narrator HD Radio arrived yesterday afternoon!
>> I thought it was lighter in weight than my Sangean HDR1 while in the
>> shipping carton!  It has a nice simple box to unpack!  I plan to save
>> mine just in case it needs to be shipped somewhere for repair.
>> 
>> There isn't much I can add here from what I already said but i think a
>> few observations  of mine need some repeating!
>> 
>> Any weak AM analog signals need to overcome a noise floor generated by
>> the radio itself.  If a signal cannot do this, it won't be heard!
>> This is true with all HD AM FM radios I have owned including the
>> Narrator.
>> 
>> I only know of one HD component tuner which had a telephone keypad and
>> it was the Sangean HDT1 or the HDT1A.  The table radios pretty much
>> use up and down scan and seek options to find specific stations and HD
>> radio streams on those stations.  I'm not saying it can't be done, I'm
>> just saying this is how the table radio has been produced!
>> 
>> I too would like an AM FM HD radio which could operate on a battery
>> pack or a number of commonly available batteries.  The only workable
>> HD radio on battery I have seen is the tiny Insignia from Best Buy!
>> It is truly tiny but it seems to be very impressive!  I heard FM
>> stations 60 to 70 miles from me!  These of course are analog signals.
>> I have only one HD radio stream in my area from my Public Radio
>> station!  I would like to write Ibiquity or some other forum and
>> express some of my concerns as to why this HD radio technology isn't
>> catching on but this is beyond the scope of this list.
>> 
>> The HDR1 I have is probably a better radio than the Narrator when it
>> comes to performance but it isn't accessible by any degree!  I need a
>> remote to run it!  The sound on the HDR1 is better too but this
>> doesn't take anything away from the narrator by any means!
>> 
>> I find my Narrator to be a very respectable radio!  I had it up and
>> running rather quickly!  I thought the manual was nicely read despite
>> how it was put together!  I of course got a few hints from others and
>> have been able to switch the radio from ITR mode to Accessible mode!
>> I think the radio is nicely built!  My Radio came up talking as did
>> Ray's unit!  I have heard of a few which weren't talking by default.
>> 
>> Last night, I heard AM analog stations from Salt Lake City, Omaha
>> Nebraska, Tulsa Oklahoma, to mention a few!  I'm in Montana.
>> 
>> I like the fact that one doesn't need to feed wire through a terminal
>> post when connecting the AM loop.  I had such a radio at one time!  My
>> Narrator and my Sangean HDR1 have the same antenna arrangements!  I
>> could probably interchange the antennas from one radio to the other!
>> the Sangean unit has a twin lead antenna for FM.  It is good to know
>> one can utilize different types of antennas on the Narrator.  The
>> clock and alarm is easy to set.  I didn't find a sleep function but
>> that is not a big deal for me!
>> 
>>   I originally wanted to have one HD radio available to me!  I would
>> be ready for it if HD Radio would catch on in a big way!  The Narrator
>> is a goodd radio since it has a reasonable price of $99 which is less
>> expensive than many other HD radios.  I paid almost $200 from Target
>> for my Sangean radio.  I can hear the stereo separation very nicely
>> whether I listen to an analog station or HD station.  The
>> accessibility is an added bonus!  One can move this radio from one
>> room to another thanks to the battery backup for the clock.
>> 
>> Do listen to Ray's presentation!  It is great!  Imagined myself
>> sitting at his kitchen table tuning around on the Narrator.  I was
>> impressed with how the Narrator easily found all HD streams on a
>> single station. Of course, the stream is either there or it isn't, no
>> middle ground! This is truly noted in Ray's presentation!
>> 
>> I have no regrets!  I'm happy I bought this radio!
>> 
>> Jim
>> 
>> On 7/10/12, James Aldrich <jajkaldrich at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I received my Narrator Radio yesterday afternoon.  I pretty much have
>>> it up and running!  I'm still checking out more fine points before I
>>> write any comments.
>>> 
>>> I sent a message to someone who has evaluated this radio for some
>>> time.  This person will remain anonymous but some good observations
>>> were set forth by this person.  This is below!
>>> 
>>> Well, it is pretty obvious this dude didn’t read the quick start guide
>>> for accessible use. It sounds like he tried to just dope everything
>>> out by trial and error. I will correct his errors below:
>>> 
>>> 1. As with most Am sections, the radio is completely deaf without
>>> connecting its loop antenna. I’ve only had the radio for a couple
>>> hours,
>>> 
>>> and haven’t figured out a way to attach the loop to the radio. It has
>>> enough wire that it could be placed on a wall.
>>> response: * Yes, this radio does not have an internal AM antenna. You
>>> must attach the external loop. It plugs in right next to the FM
>>> antenna. Couldn’t be much easier.
>>> 
>>> 3. Menu Accessibility: It doesn’t say this in the main radio manual
>>> so
>>> unless you look at the Quick-Start Guide for the Blind, you won’t know
>>> that the Menu Mode is disabled when you are in accessibility mode.
>>> You
>>> enable accessibility mode by pressing the power button, the lefthand
>>> button on the top with the Select Button which is the lower-left
>>> button
>>> *Response: This is true. The main users manual is not very clear.
>>> Blind users should skip the users manual, and the quck start guide for
>>> the ATR version, and go straight to the quick start guide for the
>>> IAAIS accessible mode. On the enclosed CD, it is track 12, the last
>>> track.
>>> 
>>> It appears that in this mode, you can set the time by holding the
>>> display
>>> 
>>> button in for two seconds. You can also set the alarm time for Alarm
>>> 1
>>> and Alarm 2. You can press either alarm to be informed that it is on
>>> or
>>> off. What sighties can do is determine whether the alarm wakes you
>>> with
>>> radio or a tone, this doesn’t seem to work in accessibility mode.
>>> * This is incorrect. In access mode you can decide what type of alarm
>>> to use by toggling the source mode button next to the power button. In
>>> ATR sighted mode, this is all done through menus, but in access mode,
>>> it is done without resorting to menus. It is also true that the menu
>>> mode is not accessible. But most functions are accessible without
>>> these menus. The ATR mode does have options for displaying album art
>>> and other such meta data which is turned off in access mode. Album art
>>> wouldn’t be accessible anyway, and the radio isn’t using a screen
>>> reader, but rather a feed back system. The radio first says the name
>>> of the button you push, and then tells you the result of that push.
>>> You can toggle between 12 and 24 hour clock modes by using the display
>>> button on the front of the radio. It is important to know that you
>>> turn the radio off when you want to set the time.
>>> 
>>> regular non-accessible mode
>>> to
>>> see what the hardware/software version of this radio is. However,
>>> there
>>> isn’t a Usb or some other port to update the software, so even if a
>>> new
>>> version came out, I don’t know if there is a way to update it. The
>>> manual
>>> 
>>> doesn’t state that this is possible.
>>> * Responce: There is a way to get the firmware revision number in
>>> access mode also. I don’t know if upgrades are anticipated.
>>> 
>>> Also, there is no way to control the radio’s verbosity. The buttons
>>> typically give you way too much feedback. For example, if you press
>>> the
>>> volume up button, it says something like Volume Up. That type of
>>> feedback
>>> 
>>> is nice when you are familiarizing yourself with the radio, but I
>>> think
>>> after a day or so it would be too verbose. It would be nice to be
>>> able
>>> 
>>> to
>>> 
>>> set it to advanced mode, where it wouldn’t continue to be so verbose.
>>> * Response: This is partly true. One cannot change the verbosity
>>> settings, they are either on or off. However, you do not have to wait
>>> for the full message before continuing. For instance, if you press and
>>> hold the volume button, the volume continues to move only saying up
>>> once. If you are tuning, you don’t have to wait for each frequency
>>> announcement, you can press repeatedly and the feedback messages are
>>> interrupted until you stop.
>>> 
>>> Sound quality is better than a $29 off-the-shelf clock radio, but that
>>> isn’t saying a whole lot for it. Those of you who have had the Sony
>>> Dream
>>> 
>>> Machine, this doesn’t compare to it as far as sound quality. I think
>>> the
>>> 
>>> manual is written incorrectly. It claims it has 4 two-inch speakers,
>>> but
>>> 
>>> without ripping off the front grill or voiding my right to return the
>>> radio, it looks more like it has two four-inch speakers.
>>> 
>>> I am not sure if I will keep this radio or not. Since I don’t need a
>>> clock radio with all sorts of other alarm options, it is one of those
>>> things that might be nice, but not sure it is worth the cost. It can
>>> receive Hd stations, but not the radio reading service subcarriers.
>>> In
>>> accessibility mode, you can’t bookmark songs, read the Hd display for
>>> data, or other things that I would have thought would have been made
>>> available if the IAAIS was as involved with the design as they were.”
>>> * The radio was designed to IAAIS specifications. IAAIS didn’t get
>>> into the subject of screen reading meta data. I suspect screen reading
>>> may be available in future, but htat is a much more complicated
>>> approach and would significantly influence price. Fidelity is a matter
>>> of taste. I think is sounds good, but, to each their own. It is not an
>>> SCA radio as he says, but wasn’t meant to be. SCA is doomed, and all
>>> reading services will have to vacate the SCA eventually. I have some
>>> quibbles, mostly with regard to the manual, but I think this is a very
>>> good first effort by best buy. If the radio sells, and indications are
>>> it will, I think they will refine the design in time.
>>> 
>>> ____________________Jim ___________________________
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 7/6/12, Gerald Levy <bwaylimited at verizon.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Be sure to provide us with your impressions and review of the Narrator
>>>> when
>>>> 
>>>> you receive it.
>>>> 
>>>> Gerald
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "James Aldrich" <jajkaldrich at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
>>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 11:04 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] First User Review of Narrator HD Radio
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi again!
>>>>> 
>>>>> One more thing! All the HD radios for home use I owned were clock
>>>>> radios and any I have seen for home use were clock radios.  The only
>>>>> HD radio which isn't a clock radio is my little portable FM only
>>>>> Insignia.  For now, this is the way it is!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jim
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 7/6/12, James Aldrich <jajkaldrich at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Gerald and all,
>>>>>> As I see it, this isn't the venue for discussing the merrit or lack of
>>>>>> merrit of HD Radio or any other sources of radio for that matter!
>>>>>> What I try to do is help people with what they wish to listen to and
>>>>>> get the most out of whether it be satellite radio, HD radio or radio
>>>>>> online.  All of these forms of radio have their advantages and
>>>>>> disadvantages.  If we were on a radio forum or list of some type, we
>>>>>> could go more into this topic!  Broadcasters certainly haven't done
>>>>>> what they could to make HD radio available everywhere!  How can one
>>>>>> evaluate HD radio if little to no content exists!  If you tell me you
>>>>>> haven't fiddled with your satellite radio antenna, I'd call you a
>>>>>> liar!  My discussion dealt more with evaluating the performance of the
>>>>>> radio itself and what one must watch for especially when attempting to
>>>>>> DX.  You will probably listen to a local station when waking up in the
>>>>>> morning.  You no doubt will figure out how to  drape the FM antenna so
>>>>>> it is out of your way!  If tuned to a local station, you shouldn't
>>>>>> have to fiddle with it.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Consider this!  My Sangian HDR1 has one big knob in front.  One pushes
>>>>>> the knob in to turn on the radio.  Once done, this sets the clock if
>>>>>> it isn't set.  It also adjusts the equalization, turns the volume up
>>>>>> or down, tunes stations, places the radio in scan mode, places radio
>>>>>> in memory mode for putting or deleting channels from memory and a host
>>>>>> of other functions.  Thank goodness this radio has a remote!  That is
>>>>>> the only way I can run it! If it didn't have a remote, I would have
>>>>>> sent it back!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I believe the Narrator will be a great improvement over my Sangian
>>>>>> HDR1 when it comes to operating the radio even if everything may not
>>>>>> speak!  I think it is best to learn the radio before coming to any
>>>>>> conclusions!  I'm looking forward to receiving mine!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> A final thought!  I can hear radio throughout the world online with my
>>>>>> IPod and this cannot be done with Satellite ?Radio or HD Radio.  I
>>>>>> think all forms of radio have their place!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Jim
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 7/6/12, Gerald Levy <bwaylimited at verizon.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The fact that you have to constantly fiddle with the antenna to get
>>>>>>> decent
>>>>>>> HD radio reception is one of the main reasons why HD radio has never
>>>>>>> attained widespread popularity with the general public and probably
>>>>>>> never
>>>>>>> will.  Like digital TV, which was forced on the public by a bunch of
>>>>>>> ignorant FCC bureaucrats, HD radio was implemented in a slipshod,
>>>>>>> haphazard
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> fashion that virtually guaranteed its failure.  It seems to me that
>>>>>>> adding
>>>>>>> HD reception to a clock radio doesn't make a whole lot of sense
>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>> who
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> wants to lay in bed in the morning and putz around with an antennajust
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> listen to a particular radio station?   Maybe Best Buy would have been
>>>>>>> better off including provisions for Sirius/XM reception in the
>>>>>>> Narrator
>>>>>>> instead of HD.  Or better yet, it could have included the ability to
>>>>>>> receive
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> the audio portion of digital TV broadcasts.  With all of its inherent
>>>>>>> reception limitations, it seems to me that HD radio is a format
>>>>>>> without
>>>>>>> much
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> of a future.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Gerald
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "James Aldrich" <jajkaldrich at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
>>>>>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 1:33 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] First User Review of Narrator HD Radio
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi all!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I wish to post a few thoughts concerning the Best Buy Narrator.  Mine
>>>>>>>> could arrive as soon as tomorrow or as late as Monday, July 9th.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I now have two HD radios presently.  I had one from radiosophy.com
>>>>>>>> which I sold and replaced with a Sangian HDR1.  Both of these are
>>>>>>>> table radios.  My third is the insignia portable radio from Best Buy.
>>>>>>>> Some say it won't last more than two years and one cannot replace its
>>>>>>>> battery!  It appears to work quite well even though it is an FM radio
>>>>>>>> only.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Part of the problem of displaying information from radio stations is
>>>>>>>> this!  Some stations may not be transmitting data in the first place.
>>>>>>>> Others may transmit data however.  The narrator won't get the 67 or
>>>>>>>> 92
>>>>>>>> KHZ sub carrier signals since it wasn't designed to get those in the
>>>>>>>> first place.  Many Radio Reading Services will be using an HD radio
>>>>>>>> stream from one of the public radio stations in the future.  Yes!
>>>>>>>> Anyone with an HD radio may listen to radio reading services.  That's
>>>>>>>> fine by me!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> One cannot compare analog radios with HD radios.  These are different
>>>>>>>> animals in a way!  The HD radio will generate birdies and noise on
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> AM band especially which interferes with weaker signals.  Mounting
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> AM loop to the radio will only keep the antenna close to the noise
>>>>>>>> generated by the radio itself.  This is part of the IBoc design!  I
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> course cannot explain all of this but I have found this to be the
>>>>>>>> case
>>>>>>>> with the Sangian HDR1 I have presently!  Move the AM loop 3 to 6
>>>>>>>> inches or further from the radio for best results.  One can loop out
>>>>>>>> unwanted signals very effectively!  On some wintery days, I was able
>>>>>>>> to hear KSL in Salt Lake City from my home in Montana on HD.  This
>>>>>>>> doesn't stay in very long but it is possible!  I have also heard KOA
>>>>>>>> in Denver, and KFAB in Omaha from my basement in HD but these don't
>>>>>>>> stay in very long.  One needs a strong signal in order to get an HD
>>>>>>>> stream to come  in.  When this happens, the experience is quite
>>>>>>>> impressive!  One doesn't get allot of noise or hum from any signals!
>>>>>>>> In fact, it is truly FM quality from an AM station and CD quality
>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>> an FM station!  If there is any dead time on the station, one won't
>>>>>>>> hear anything at all till the programming begins again!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> My advice is to place your AM loop 3 inches from the radio for a
>>>>>>>> local
>>>>>>>> station, or place it further if you can from the unit itself.  This
>>>>>>>> reduces noise on an analog signal!  If dxing, hold the loop in your
>>>>>>>> hand and use it to null out local stations and bring in stations near
>>>>>>>> the local station being looped out.  I have a station on 970 KHZ.  I
>>>>>>>> can hear a sports station in Canada on 960, CFAC very comfortably
>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>> little to no interference from the local station.  There is more of a
>>>>>>>> noise factor on an analog station from an HD radio unit.  I have
>>>>>>>> heard
>>>>>>>> WOAI out of SanAntonio Texas which is quite a find in my area!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> My Sangian Radio has a whip antenna for FM or I can put the long
>>>>>>>> antenna on it which works very well.  I also put a pair of TV Rabbit
>>>>>>>> Ears on that radio which worked quite well on the FM band.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Perhaps the Dream Machine had good sound and it wasn't too bad on AM
>>>>>>>> but it was a horrible FM radio.  One had to put up with that silly
>>>>>>>> piece of wire which was a poor excuse for an FM antenna as I saw it!
>>>>>>>> I'm glad I sold mine!  At least with the narrator, one can choose
>>>>>>>> which antenna can be used and it is a standard cable connector.  I
>>>>>>>> think too one must fiddle with the radio longer than two hours to
>>>>>>>> really appreciate HD radio!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I'll have more to say once I get my narrator so don't be discouraged!
>>>>>>>> Keep the loop antenna away from the radio, connect that FM antenna
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> have a blast!  What I wrote here is very typical of the HD radios I
>>>>>>>> have used.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> HTH
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Jim
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 7/4/12, Gerald Levy <bwaylimited at verizon.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Following is a brief review of the highly-anticipated Narrator HD
>>>>>>>>> Radio
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>> was posted by someone named Steve on another blind-techrelated
>>>>>>>>> mailing
>>>>>>>>> list.
>>>>>>>>> The opinions expressed in this review are strictly his:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> "For all the hoopla, and touting about its accessibility, I guess I
>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>> expecting more than a piece of below-average junk.  Here are my
>>>>>>>>>> quick
>>>>>>>>>> findings:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 1.  As with most Am sections, the radio is completely deaf without
>>>>>>>>>> connecting its loop antenna.  I've only had the radio for a couple
>>>>>>>>>> hours,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> and haven't figured out a way to attach the loop to the radio.  It
>>>>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>>>>> enough wire that it could be placed on a wall.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 2.  Similarly the Fm dipole is a must.  Interestingly, instead of
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> F
>>>>>>>>>> connectors that most tuners use these days, this has a cable type
>>>>>>>>>> screw-on
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> connector.  Sensitivity is good, selectivity and immunity to
>>>>>>>>>> overload
>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>> mine is only fair.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 3.  Menu Accessibility:  It doesn't say this in the main radio
>>>>>>>>>> manual
>>>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>>>> unless you look at the Quick-Start Guide for the Blind, you won't
>>>>>>>>>> know
>>>>>>>>>> that the Menu Mode is disabled when you are in accessibility mode.
>>>>>>>>>> You
>>>>>>>>>> enable accessibility mode by pressing the power button, the
>>>>>>>>>> lefthand
>>>>>>>>>> button on the top with the Select Button which is the lower-left
>>>>>>>>>> button
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> the front of the radio.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> It appears that in this mode, you can set the time by holding the
>>>>>>>>>> display
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> button in for two seconds.  You can also set the alarm time for
>>>>>>>>>> Alarm
>>>>>>>>>> 1
>>>>>>>>>> and Alarm 2.  You can press either alarm to be informed that it is
>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>> off. What sighties can do is determine whether the alarm wakes you
>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>> radio or a tone, this doesn't seem to work in accessibility mode.
>>>>>>>>>> Sighted
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> people can also access the menu and make all sorts of other
>>>>>>>>>> adjustments
>>>>>>>>>> such as 12 or 24-hour time, tuning modes like U.S. or International
>>>>>>>>>> Am/Fm
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> band limits and channel spacing,Lcd color and brightness, etc.
>>>>>>>>>> These
>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> only available in the menu when the accessibility mode is turned
>>>>>>>>>> off.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> There is an option in the menu under the regular non-accessible
>>>>>>>>>> mode
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> see what the hardware/software version of this radio is.  However,
>>>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>>>> isn't a Usb or some other port to update the software, so even if a
>>>>>>>>>> new
>>>>>>>>>> version came out, I don't know if there is a way to update it.  The
>>>>>>>>>> manual
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> doesn't state that this is possible.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Also, there is no way to control the radio's verbosity.  The
>>>>>>>>>> buttons
>>>>>>>>>> typically give you way too much feedback.  For example, if you
>>>>>>>>>> press
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> volume up button, it says something like Volume Up.  That type of
>>>>>>>>>> feedback
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> is nice when you are familiarizing yourself with the radio, but I
>>>>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>>>>> after a day or so it would be too verbose.  It would be nice to be
>>>>>>>>>> able
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> set it to advanced mode, where it wouldn't continue to be so
>>>>>>>>>> verbose.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Sound quality is better than a $29 off-the-shelf clock radio, but
>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>> isn't saying a whole lot for it.  Those of you who have had the
>>>>>>>>>> Sony
>>>>>>>>>> Dream
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Machine, this doesn't compare to it as far as sound quality.  I
>>>>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> manual is written incorrectly.  It claims it has 4 two-inch
>>>>>>>>>> speakers,
>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> without ripping off the front grill or voiding my right to return
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> radio, it looks more like it has two four-inch speakers.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I am not sure if I will keep this radio or not.  Since I don't need
>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>> clock radio with all sorts of other alarm options, it is one of
>>>>>>>>>> those
>>>>>>>>>> things that might be nice, but not sure it is worth the cost.  It
>>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>> receive Hd stations, but not the radio reading service subcarriers.
>>>>>>>>>> In
>>>>>>>>>> accessibility mode, you can't bookmark songs, read the Hd display
>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>> data, or other things that I would have thought would have been
>>>>>>>>>> made
>>>>>>>>>> available if the IAAIS was as involved with the design as they
>>>>>>>>>> were."
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