[Electronics-talk] Cable/setup boxes

Mon Jun 18 21:25:44 UTC 2012

So we can file complaints with the FCC in 2013.  Whoopee! That ought to 
scare the bejeebers out of those greedy cable company executives.  If a 
certain Republican candidate wins the presidential election, it won't matter 
anyway, because this individual would like to dismantle a lot of government 
agencies and reduce federal regulations which he claims hurt the economy. 
So the FCC could wind up even more ineffective than it already is.

Gerald

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Larry Wayland" <larry.wayland at arkansas.gov>
To: "'Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances'" 
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Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 5:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Cable/setup boxes

> Twenty-First Century Communications and Video Accessibility Act of 2010 
> (2010;
> I think the above act will help with the problem you are discussing.
> If I remember right  the companies have until October 2013 to come into 
> compliance. Then consumers will be able to file complaints with the FCC.
> Larry
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org 
> [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
> Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 3:07 PM
> To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Cable/settop boxes
>
>
> No, the cable companies will carry the SAP signal.  But the problem is 
> that
> most of us won't be able to turn it on or off because their converter 
> boxes
> are not accessible,  and their remotes have no dedicated SAP button, a
> problem the cable companies have absolutely no interest in addressing.  So
> for all intents and purposes, it won't make any difference whether or not
> the cable companies carry described audio programming on the SAP channel
> because without sighted help, most of us  won't be able to access it.
>
> Gerald
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Brett Boyer" <bboyer202 at gmail.com>
> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 2:52 PM
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Cable/settop boxes
>
>
>> Wait a minute. So you mean we'll still have to fight to get s A p carried
>> through the greedy cable companies? When nbc and fox and everybody roles
>> out this supposed new thing the cable companies will have to be persuaded
>> to carry the signal too? If that's the case than that is going to be an
>> uphill battle.
>> I really hope thats not the case.
>> bb
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Ray Foret Jr" <rforetjr at att.net>
>> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 4:20 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Cable/settop boxes
>>
>>
>>> Now that's interesting that you should mention that about their Iphone
>>> app.  When I tried it, it was an accessibility disaster.  I could see
>>> that I had recorded shows but couldn't read the titles to save my life.
>>> This was around March of 2010.  Maybe I'll have to give it another look
>>> then. I have tried and tried to pursuade AT&T U-verse to pass  through
>>> the SAP channel for my locals but the only one they will do that for is
>>> channel 12, my local PBS.  Ain't given' up though.
>>>
>>> It, however, is true that one can turn on SAP with relative eas using 
>>> the
>>> AT&T U-verse remote.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>>
>>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>>>
>>> Skype name:
>>> barefootedray
>>>
>>> On Jun 18, 2012, at 12:43 AM, Brett Boyer wrote:
>>>
>>>> es! And thanks to barefooted Ray. The way to turn sap on and off with
>>>> at&t u-verse remote. Not to mention that there i-phone app is 70 
>>>> perdent
>>>> accessible. Enough to view and record shows. It's not perfect butt 
>>>> maybe
>>>> with a letter to the developers it could be.
>>>> Anyway just throwing this one out there.
>>>> bb
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jenny Keller" <jlperdue3 at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
>>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2012 3:01 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Cable/settop boxes
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Just for anyone's knowledge.  Comcast has it to where you can program
>>>>> your DVR and watch on demand programs on the computer, also, if you
>>>>> have an iPhone, and you have a compatible box for the xfinity ap, you
>>>>> can do the programming of the DVR, and control your TV and voiceover
>>>>> works with that.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just for people who didn't know that.
>>>>>
>>>>> It doesn't do me any good to have the ap on my iPhone, cause I don't
>>>>> have a compatible box, but I use the on demand thing if I miss a show
>>>>> or something.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't know about with JAWS or window eyes, but I know that the site,
>>>>> I believe it's xfinitytv.net, or you can just call comcast itself to
>>>>> ask what the site name is to get to on demand is, and it's very
>>>>> accessible with voiceover.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jenny
>>>>> On Jun 15, 2012, at 6:55 AM, from tim aune wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> If you have comcasts converter boxes for older tv's, they have an SAP
>>>>>> button on the supplied remote.  I think that the boxes for HD tv 
>>>>>> boxes
>>>>>> make you go into the menue to get to the SAP service.
>>>>>> Tim Aune
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: John Riehl
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 6:42 AM
>>>>>> To: 'Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances'
>>>>>> Subject: [Electronics-talk] Cable/settop boxes
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I just read the announcement re more descriptive audio being 
>>>>>> available
>>>>>> soon.
>>>>>> That's great!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm curious what the status is of the cable companies and TV
>>>>>> manufacturers
>>>>>> providing accessible settop boxes. I've tried contacting comcast but
>>>>>> can't
>>>>>> find a contact info; I'm not sure where to start with Verizon. What
>>>>>> are NFB
>>>>>> and orgs like AFB doing in this regard?
>>>>>> I'm tired of paying for services I  can't use, much less not being
>>>>>> able to
>>>>>> navigate my tv's menu. I know about the talking Panasonic tv's being
>>>>>> available in Great Britain; are they available here in the US?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for any info anyone has!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Panasonic
>>>>>>
>>>>>> John Riehl
>>>>>>
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