[Electronics-talk] T Mobile and accessibility

Tue May 1 21:24:59 UTC 2012

I believe that is correct -- although I am not an Android expert.

David Andrews

At 02:21 PM 5/1/2012, you wrote:
>My phone doesn't have ice cream sandwich.  It has 2.3.  I was told 
>that it isn't accessible with gingerbread without a directional pad 
>or arrow keys.
>
>Am I wrong.
>
>Jenny
>On May 1, 2012, at 1:05 PM, Walter Cone wrote:
>
> > Actually that phone is accessible and I have worked with it.
> >
> >     Is the problem you want buttons to use or do you have a problem with
> > just a touch screen.
> >
> >     With some of those phones you need to go to the google market or now
> > called play tore and get talkback, a free screen reader.
> >
> >     For Ice Cream sandwich you can start accessibility by drawing a
> > reptangle from the top left corner of the screen and it hould turn on for
> > you.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
> > [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jenny Keller
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 1:10 PM
> > To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
> > Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] T Mobile and accessibility
> >
> > I totally understand that one.  But when I'm told that a phone has a
> > directional pad and querty keyboard, and when I get it, it's a touch screen
> > only, and then, they keep telling me that phones have directional pads and
> > such and they don't, I get pretty upset.  they aught to know which ones do
> > and don't have various features.  I know they don't know about 
> accessibility
> > for the blind, but when they tell me outright lies to get me to 
> try a phone,
> > it's unexceptable.
> >
> > Now, they want me to try the HTC 1S which I'm told is accessibible because
> > it has Ice Cream Sandwich on it, I won't do it because HTC phones have so
> > much other junk on it that I have heard from other people who have had
> > experience with them that it's not worth the hastle.
> >
> > When a company can't give me the correct information about the 
> phone itself,
> > whether it has a directional pad, optical pad, qwerty keyboard, etc, that's
> > pretty bad.
> >
> > AT&T at least has an accessibility department and you can upgrade to an I
> > phone when you have an upgrade available.
> >
> > Just my opinion though.
> >
> > Jenny
> > On May 1, 2012, at 11:26 AM, Dr. Denise M Robinson wrote:
> >
> >> Just a head's up. The people in the phone companies know little about
> >> accessibility features--but many of you know this already. It will be
> >> a rare person at the companies who can help.
> >> The motto I use is: I figure it out myself and ask everyone I can
> >> about their success or failure, then I call and tell the company what I
> > need.
> >> You will save yourself hours of headaches with this approach Denise
> >>
> >> On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 8:32 AM, Jenny Keller <jlperdue3 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi all,
> >>>
> >>> I just wanted to let you know that you need to seriously consider
> >>> switching to T mobile.  I have been battling with them since before
> >>> the 23rd of last month about getting me an accessible phone, and
> >>> they've sent me four wrong phones that weren't accessible at all.  I
> >>> finally told them to cancel my account because they would tell me,
> >>> for example, that  a particular phone had a directional pad on the
> >>> qwerty keyboard, and I'd get the phone and no dice.
> >>>
> >>> I know they have a thing with the NFB, but they have done nothing but
> >>> give me a hard time the whole time I've dealt with them.
> >>>
> >>> I'm sticking with AT&T even though it's 80 dollars more expensive,
> >>> because I can get accessible phones without hassel.
> >>>
> >>> Just wanted to put that warning out there.
> >>>
> >>> Jenny
> >>> On May 1, 2012, at 7:31 AM, Beverly Hunter wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> The iPhone already has voiceover. I don't really understand your
> >>> question.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Debbie Eifler"
> >>>> <edebgiggles at aol.com>
> >>>> To: <Electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> >>>> Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 9:37 PM
> >>>> Subject: [Electronics-talk] IPhone
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I am new to this chat and I was wondering which voice assistant
> >>>> works
> >>> the best?  I do not have an iPhone 4 yet so I downloaded Jenny and I
> >>> am disappointed with it I hear Siri is good.  What do you all think.
> >>> Debbie
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Sent from my iPhone
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> >>
> >>
> >> --
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> >>
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