[Electronics-talk] T Mobile and accessibility

Tue May 1 21:42:01 UTC 2012

Does the phone have a keyboard or does it jut have a screen.  If you have a
keyboard and a track ball that would be great but mine has neither and I use
the talkback keyboard and a shell like Eyes free shell to organize my aps.

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jenny Keller
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 3:22 PM
To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] T Mobile and accessibility

My phone doesn't have ice cream sandwich.  It has 2.3.  I was told that it
isn't accessible with gingerbread without a directional pad or arrow keys.

Am I wrong.

Jenny
On May 1, 2012, at 1:05 PM, Walter Cone wrote:

> Actually that phone is accessible and I have worked with it.
> 
>     Is the problem you want buttons to use or do you have a problem 
> with just a touch screen.
> 
>     With some of those phones you need to go to the google market or 
> now called play tore and get talkback, a free screen reader.
> 
>     For Ice Cream sandwich you can start accessibility by drawing a 
> reptangle from the top left corner of the screen and it hould turn on 
> for you.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jenny Keller
> Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 1:10 PM
> To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] T Mobile and accessibility
> 
> I totally understand that one.  But when I'm told that a phone has a 
> directional pad and querty keyboard, and when I get it, it's a touch 
> screen only, and then, they keep telling me that phones have 
> directional pads and such and they don't, I get pretty upset.  they 
> aught to know which ones do and don't have various features.  I know 
> they don't know about accessibility for the blind, but when they tell 
> me outright lies to get me to try a phone, it's unexceptable.
> 
> Now, they want me to try the HTC 1S which I'm told is accessibible 
> because it has Ice Cream Sandwich on it, I won't do it because HTC 
> phones have so much other junk on it that I have heard from other 
> people who have had experience with them that it's not worth the hastle.
> 
> When a company can't give me the correct information about the phone 
> itself, whether it has a directional pad, optical pad, qwerty 
> keyboard, etc, that's pretty bad.
> 
> AT&T at least has an accessibility department and you can upgrade to 
> an I phone when you have an upgrade available.
> 
> Just my opinion though.
> 
> Jenny
> On May 1, 2012, at 11:26 AM, Dr. Denise M Robinson wrote:
> 
>> Just a head's up. The people in the phone companies know little about 
>> accessibility features--but many of you know this already. It will be 
>> a rare person at the companies who can help.
>> The motto I use is: I figure it out myself and ask everyone I can 
>> about their success or failure, then I call and tell the company what 
>> I
> need.
>> You will save yourself hours of headaches with this approach Denise
>> 
>> On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 8:32 AM, Jenny Keller <jlperdue3 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I just wanted to let you know that you need to seriously consider 
>>> switching to T mobile.  I have been battling with them since before 
>>> the 23rd of last month about getting me an accessible phone, and 
>>> they've sent me four wrong phones that weren't accessible at all.  I 
>>> finally told them to cancel my account because they would tell me, 
>>> for example, that  a particular phone had a directional pad on the 
>>> qwerty keyboard, and I'd get the phone and no dice.
>>> 
>>> I know they have a thing with the NFB, but they have done nothing 
>>> but give me a hard time the whole time I've dealt with them.
>>> 
>>> I'm sticking with AT&T even though it's 80 dollars more expensive, 
>>> because I can get accessible phones without hassel.
>>> 
>>> Just wanted to put that warning out there.
>>> 
>>> Jenny
>>> On May 1, 2012, at 7:31 AM, Beverly Hunter wrote:
>>> 
>>>> The iPhone already has voiceover. I don't really understand your
>>> question.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Debbie Eifler" 
>>>> <edebgiggles at aol.com>
>>>> To: <Electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 9:37 PM
>>>> Subject: [Electronics-talk] IPhone
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I am new to this chat and I was wondering which voice assistant 
>>>> works
>>> the best?  I do not have an iPhone 4 yet so I downloaded Jenny and I 
>>> am disappointed with it I hear Siri is good.  What do you all think.
>>> Debbie
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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>> --
>> Denise
>> 
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