[Electronics-talk] Accessible HD/FM Radio Announced

James Aldrich jajkaldrich at gmail.com
Wed May 30 17:28:12 UTC 2012


Hi all, 

Western Montana has more HD radio stations than does south central Montana where I am.  It is non existant here! There are 15 stations in Billings which is Montana's largest city! 

Jim 
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On May 26, 2012, at 6:47 PM, "Fred Wurtzel" <f.wurtzel at att.net> wrote:

> Hi funny you should mention Montana.  The car we had the HD radio in was the
> 1 that we went to Montana in.  There was 1 spot where we had 2 radio
> choices, regardless of what band or format we chose.  1 was a country music
> station and the other 1 was a native American station which played
> traditional music.  We thought it was fun to be in such an area in contrast
> to here in Michigan where the bands are fairly crowded.  
> 
> We traded that car in and our present car does not have an HD radio, so I
> cannot comment on availability, now.  Back then, maybe half to a third of
> stations had HD and I, personally, really enjoyed the better sound.
> 
> I loved Glacier, yellowstone and Three Forks.  We visited the Capitol, also.
> Great trip.
> 
> warm Regards,
> 
> Fred
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
> [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of James Aldrich
> Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 2:27 PM
> To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Accessible HD/FM Radio Announced
> 
> Hi Fred and all,
> 
> I think it has to do with how people think about AM/FM radio in general!  I
> have an hd radio myself and it works fine when it works.  Our NPR station is
> the only HD station where I am and it only has one stream.  Our AM HD
> stations were sold .  Since I am in rural Montana, stations need to cover
> some distance.  In order for the stream to kick in,  strong signals  are
> required.  The stream won't work with weak to marginal signals.  Someone 30
> to 60 miles out won't detect the stream despite gain antennas.  It hasn't
> gone anywhere here and there isn't many portable options. Online and
> satellite radio are ahead since they have more choices than HD radio
> couldn't hope to deliver! It hasn't been embraced here!
> 
> Jim
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On May 20, 2012, at 8:17 PM, "Fred Wurtzel" <f.wurtzel at att.net> wrote:
> 
>> Wow, I am facinated by all the negativity about this topic/thread.  I 
>> have owned a digital radio in our family car and found it to be great.  
>> If the price of $99 is correct, this is not out of line for a decent 
>> radio.  I agree that a good Digital TV receiver without the screen 
>> would be useful, but that does not diminish the value of the radio.
>> 
>> Back to the point, why is there so much negativity?  I am not a huge 
>> Best Buy fan, but I shop there and have no fundamental issue with 
>> them.  They have sold other accessible appliances in the past and I 
>> appreciate their efforts.  They do as well as many and better than 
>> most on this effort.  Why are we so critical?
>> 
>> Warmest Regards,
>> 
>> Fred
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>> [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jenny Keller
>> Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 4:17 PM
>> To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Accessible HD/FM Radio Announced
>> 
>> You have a great point, We have old clunky TV's that are still alive 
>> after fifteen or so years, but when they die, I'm buying the cheapest, 
>> crappiest smallest TV that's digital, cause if the pictures goes out, I
> wouldn't care.
>> 
>> It would make sense, however, that some blindness company put out a 
>> digital TV box as you have said.  The only thing is, it would cost a 
>> bloody fortune as most things for the blind do.  they have us over a 
>> barrel you know, smile.
>> 
>> Jenny
>> On May 20, 2012, at 6:29 AM, Gerald Levy wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> The reason HD radio is dead in the water is that consumers prefer to 
>>> pay
>> for commercial-free XM/Sirius radio.  Instead of introducing an HD 
>> radio , the audio benefits of which are dubious in a unit of this 
>> size, Insignia would have been better off offering an AM/FM radio that 
>> can also receive the audio portion of digital TV broadcasts, much like 
>> the old analog AM/FM/TV band radios.  Do we really need a 32" high 
>> definition LCD TV just to hear the audio portion of the digital TV 
>> signal?  I would much rather have the ability to listen to digital TV 
>> stations on a compact radio than a bunch of HD radio stations churning out
> more right-wing and hip-hop garbage.
>>> 
>>> Gerald
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Foret Jr" <rforetjr at att.net>
>>> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 8:38 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Accessible HD/FM Radio Announced
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> To speak frankly, I fail to see how any of this discussion is 
>>>> relevant to
>> the subject of HD radio.  This is not a blasted chat line.
>>>> 
>>>> HD radio is what is radio's answer to HD tv.  Those who say there's 
>>>> no
>> difference between analog FM and HD radio must have a lot of wax in 
>> their ears or else be unable to tell the difference; because, I assure 
>> you, there is a difference.  Even if you happen to be in a market 
>> which does not offer any HD stations, (I can get them here.), the 
>> radio would still be a good buy.  Why?  HD radios are much more 
>> sensitive even when receiving regular analog FM and AM signals.  If 
>> you'd bothered to read the page Dave sent us a link to, you would have 
>> noticed a detailed description of the radio's accessibility.  
>> Furthermore, if you go to the Best Buy page and look at the radio, you 
>> will notice an even further description.  I don't get y'all at all.  I 
>> really don't.  Y'all whine and cry for accessibility; and, when 
>> somebody out there makes an effort, y'all just tera it down.  Y'all just
> ain't never satisfied I guess.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>>> 
>>>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>>>> 
>>>> Skype name:
>>>> barefootedray
>>>> 
>>>> Facebook:
>>>> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On May 19, 2012, at 7:28 PM, cheez wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> You don't like cheering squads?  LOL Vince
>>>>> 
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jenny Keller" 
>>>>> <jlperdue3 at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 5:12 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Accessible HD/FM Radio Announced
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> are you talking about the Moshi?  I would be a little concerned if 
>>>>>> the
>> radio was voice activated like that thing.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It got really annoying in certain situations, definitely having it 
>>>>>> in
>> the bedroom could be a little bad when a husband and wife are together.
>> that's all I'm saying.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Jenny
>>>>>> On May 19, 2012, at 3:30 PM, Gerald Levy wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Did you happen to get stuck wih one of those  Insignia 
>>>>>>> voice-command
>> clock radios like I did?  Makes a great paperweight.  That's why I 
>> would be very cautious about its latest endeavor.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Gerald
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Foret Jr" 
>>>>>>> <rforetjr at att.net>
>>>>>>> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 4:23 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Accessible HD/FM Radio Announced
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Wow!  We do think positive don't we?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> That's a forcast for success if ever I saw one.  IF I told you 
>>>>>>>> the
>> grass was green, would you forcast it to turn blue shortly?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Skype name:
>>>>>>>> barefootedray
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Facebook:
>>>>>>>> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On May 19, 2012, at 3:09 PM, Gerald Levy wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Sounds like a good product.  Unfortunately,HD radio has not 
>>>>>>>>> caught
>> on, and its long-term viability is questionable.  Also, the financial 
>> health of Best Buy is on very shaky grounds, and it could go under at 
>> any time, leaving owners of this new product in the lurch.  And Best 
>> Buy's store-brand Insignia products have not enjoyed a good reputation 
>> for quality.  A few years ago, they introduced a voice-command clock 
>> radio that was beset by all kinds of technical glitches.  It was 
>> quickly discontinued and wound up on Cowboom.com selling for only $8. 
>> So let's see if Insignia's latest attempt at a blind -friendly radio is a
> real improvement.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Gerald
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Andrews"
>> <dandrews at visi.com>
>>>>>>>>> To: <david.andrews at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2012 2:46 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Electronics-talk] Accessible HD/FM Radio Announced
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Best Buy, working with IAAIS has announced an accessible, 
>>>>>>>>>> talking,
>> FM/HD tabletop radio.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>> http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/05/18/idUS150650+18-May-2012+HUG20
>> 120518
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
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