[Electronics-talk] I asked about an android phone, but finally sent the iPhone to be fixed *frown*
James Aldrich
jajkaldrich at gmail.com
Tue Sep 4 02:24:50 UTC 2012
I use my phone with earbuds and with bluetooth. The IPhone works best with earbuds or headphones with an inline microphone.
Jim
Sent from my iPhone
On Sep 3, 2012, at 8:06 PM, "Drew Hunthausen" <dhunthausen at gmail.com> wrote:
> So the i-phone 4s cannot be used without ear phones? What about using a
> Bluetooth device instead of plugging the jack in?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
> [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of David Evans
> Sent: Monday, September 03, 2012 7:02 PM
> To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] I asked about an android phone, but finally
> sent the iPhone to be fixed *frown*
>
> Dear all,
>
> YThe problem you were likely having was one of conflict between Siri and
> Voice Over.
>
> To use them both together, you need to plug a set of earphones in to keep
> Siri from getting confused by Voice Over talking in the background.
>
> This will cause a lock up and a hard reset.
>
> David Evans and GD Jack.
>
> A new user of the I-Phone.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jenny Keller" <jlperdue3 at gmail.com>
> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, September 03, 2012 9:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] I asked about an android phone,but finally
> sent the iPhone to be fixed *frown*
>
>
>> Well, I have to say, that I just got my I phone 4S in May, and SIRI
>> had to be dealt with by hard resetting the phone depending upon usage
>> at least one to three times a day.
>>
>> I use AT&T and since the phone was under warrantee through Apple, I
>> had to wait till they overnighted me a box, put the phone in the box
>> properly, send the phone back, then wait till they sent me another phone.
>>
>> After three sim cards, and a lot of trouble shooting, we discovered
>> that that phone was a glorified and expensive PDA.
>>
>> I would have to go through all that crap again, which I was not
>> willing to do. So I got things handled with AT&T and was overnighted a
> Galaxy S3.
>>
>> It's not as easy to use as the I phone. But I was without a cell
>> phone for a week and a half, and frankly, after two 4S' that didn't
>> either work properly, or at all, I had had enough.
>>
>> Hope others have better luck.
>>
>> Jenny
>> On Sep 3, 2012, at 3:19 PM, James Aldrich wrote:
>>
>>> all,
>>>
>>> My wife got a Verizon insurance plan. She had a problem with her
>>> IPhone 4S. I called Verizon and she got a new phone within 24 hours.
>>> I helped her set it up with her ICloud account. All seems to be okay
>>> now even though the original problem wasn't solved. This had to do
>>> with going to speaker phone by moving it further back from her ear.
>>> We aren't certain why we haven't been able to fix this. My
>>> particular phone is working nicely.
>>>
>>> I'm writing this on my Voice Sense and the only way I can get it to
>>> connect is through my personal hot spot I had activated with my share
>>> everything account from Verizon. The VS doesn't work with my cable
>>> provider. The personal hot spot is quite a feature but don't imagine
>>> myself using it often.
>>>
>>> Jim
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> ,f3 ,j5ny ,kell] <jlperdue3 at gmail.com>
>>> ,to3 ,4cus.n ( a3essi# electronics & appli.es
>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>,
>>> Date: Tuesday, Aug 21, 2012 05:11:47 PM
>>> Subject: [Electronics-talk] I asked about an android phone, but
>>> finally sent the iPhone to be fixed ininfrown*
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> Due to the responses on this list, and the fact that a lot of people
>>>> have said that what I'm experiencing with SIRI just doesn't seem to
>>>> be usual, I contacted Apple, and asked that my iPhone be replaced.
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately though, I had to send it in today and am without any
>>>> cell phone till the new one gets here.
>>>>
>>>> If I had the money, they would've sent me a new one, charged my card
>>>> for the new one till my old one got back there, and then replaced the
> money.
>>>> That unfortunately couldn't happen. so here I am, without a cell phone.
>>>>
>>>> I hope to get a new one soon, and that most of my major SIRI issues
>>>> are resolved.
>>>>
>>>> thanks for all of your advice.
>>>>
>>>> Jenny
>>>> On Aug 20, 2012, at 12:34 PM, Baracco, Andrew W wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Keep in mind that the present version of Siri is a beta version.
>>>>> It's very unusual that beta software would be included in a
>>>>> publically released product, but what is usual about Apple? (SMILE)!
>>>>> Andy
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> @> @> -----Original Message-----
>>> @> @> ,f3 electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>> [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jenny
>>>>> Keller
>>>>> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 5:43 PM
>>>>> To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Looking for an accessible android
>>>>> phone
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Jim and all,
>>>>>
>>>>> I asked AT&T if Jelly Bean was even out, and they told me not yet
>>>>> on their end.
>>>>>
>>>>> the Android phones that I've seen that run Ice Cream Sandwich are
>>>>> much more of a pain than I think they're worth.
>>>>>
>>>>> I restored my iPhone 4S to factory settings and put all my junk
>>>>> back on it. Hopefully that will solve SIRI's attitude ininsmile*.
>>>>>
>>>>> I still have to re-download my apps again, but that's for another
>>>>> day next week as my husband is going to be baptized tomorrow and I
>>>>> frankly don't have the time or energy, or even, not to be a brat,
>>>>> but inclination, to do it right now as you all can imagine.
>>>>>
>>>>> If nothing else, I'll just wait till the new iPhone update to 6
>>>>> comes out and hope that SIRI's bugs have been fixed.
>>>>>
>>>>> Have a great night and weekend.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jenny
>>>>> On Aug 17, 2012, at 10:13 AM, Jim Barbour wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> So, we've moved far away from the original question which was
>>>>>> recomendations for an android phone.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I said some of this earlier, but I'll repeat it and add more here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> First, I highly recommend trying to make the iPhone work for you.
>>>>>> I believe it really is the best option out there.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Next, if you really want to try out an android phone, look for one
>>>>>> that hsi running Jelly Bean. The Jelly Bean version of talkBack
>>>>>> now has the "explore by touch" technology built into the phone,
>>>>>> which makes for a much nicer user experience for blind users.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As to which phone to get, I can recommend the "droid 4" phone,
>>>>>> which runs on Verizon. For other carriers, you'll need to ask
>>>>>> around. Some
>>>>>
>>>>>> things you'll care about are...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * Does the phone have a physical keyboard, D-pad, joystick etc?
>>>>>> How do they feel in your hand?
>>>>>> NOTE: you don't have to have these controls to use an android
>>>>>> phone running Jelly Bean, but it really will help.
>>>>>> * Does the phone run Jelly Bean?
>>>>>> * How is the phone's battery life?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hope this helps,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jim
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 11:03:37AM com0400, Julie Phillipson wrote:
>>>>>>> hay you can get ear buds that have different size covers for
>>>>>>> small, medium and large and they block out noise around you. I
>>>>>>> get them for
>>>>>
>>>>>>> 10 bucks at drug store.com. They are like the old style ear bud
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>
>>>>>>> goes into the ear not just sit at the opening of the ear. Those
>>>>>>> other kind of buds hurt my ears too.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Julie Phillipson
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jenny Keller"
>>> @> >>> <jlperdue3 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
>>> @> >>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2012 12:50 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Looking for an accessible android
>>>>>>> phone
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have very small ear connals, and very small ears that make it
>>>>>>>> hard
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> to find a bluetooth headset that fits properly that doesn't cost
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>> fortune.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have one that sort of works, but it causes pain after wearing
>>>>>>>> it for any long periods of time.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Also, our bus terminal is in a fowl neighborhood and some of the
>>>>>>>> people who ride the bus are not the kind of people you'd want to
>>>>>>>> let
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> know that you have an iPhone 4S.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Love the joke though.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jenny
>>>>>>>> On Aug 15, 2012, at 2:14 PM, Baracco, Andrew W wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> How can something on your head cause a pain in your behind? LOL!
>>>>>>>>> Andy
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>> @> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> @> >>>>> From: electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>> [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jenny
>>>>>>>>> Keller
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2012 7:09 PM
>>>>>>>>> To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Looking for an accessible
>>>>>>>>> android phone
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There are bugs on the iPhone 4S such as SIRI deciding to stop
>>>>>>>>> working and having to reset the phone at least twice a day.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> there is also the bug that voiceover gets drowned out when you
>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> to push a number for the menus on phone things like press one
>>>>>>>>> for etc. You can use a bluetooth or headset for that, but I
>>>>>>>>> don't like
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> to have anything on my head, so it's a pain in the behind.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sometimes, when just using the touch screen itself, if you are
>>>>>>>>> on the contacts screen and you press contacts, it will flip to
>>>>>>>>> a blank
>>>>> screen.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> things like that irritate me, and if I wanted a phone that
>>>>>>>>> didn't have the capacity for SIRI working correctly, I would've
>>>>>>>>> just gotten the iPhone 4 and not have had to spend the extra
>>>>>>>>> money, especially with the bug in voiceover that gets drowned
>>>>>>>>> out by the
>>>>> speaker phone.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I called Apple Accessibility about both issues and they said
>>>>>>>>> they were bugs and that they couldn't do anything about it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> therefore, I have an upgrade available, and am seriously
>>>>>>>>> considering an android phone. Though the Galaxy S3 turned out
>>>>>>>>> to be way ore complicated than it was worth.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jenny
>>>>>>>>> On Aug 13, 2012, at 5:28 PM, Jim Barbour wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hey Jenny,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm writing you back as I think my comments will be useful to
>>>>> others.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I've been playing with various Android phones recently, and
>>>>>>>>>> they are slowly catching up with the iPhone, in terms of
>>>>>>>>>> blindness
>>>>> usability.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> There are a few good reasons to go with an android phone, but
>>>>>>>>>> you should be aware of wha you're getting.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If you could tell us more about what you find frustrating
>>>>>>>>>> about the iPhone, we can help you figure out if Android will
>>>>>>>>>> be a better
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> solution.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Take Care,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Jim
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 05:12:39PM com0500, Jenny Keller wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I am getting very frustrated with my iPhone 4S and looked at
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> Galaxy 3s last week.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I found it to be more of a pain than it was worth.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I want an android that is at least Ice Cream Sandwich. Any
>>>>>>>>> suggestions, and I would appreciate it if you would give me
>>>>>>>>> reasons
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> and good points and even bad about the phone you suggest.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Please write me off list as to keep traffic down.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Jenny
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