[Electronics-talk] GPS in the Big City

Thu Apr 11 23:51:57 UTC 2013

Hi Jim, iMove is in the app store if you wanna try it out

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 11, 2013, at 14:19, Jim Barbour <jbar at barcore.com> wrote:

> Yes, your iTunes username and password will likely work.  If you don't
> buy music in iTunes, you may also need to add a credit card to the
> account.
> 
> Jim
> 
> On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 01:14:59PM -0500, Bryan Schulz wrote:
>> jim
>> 
>> what is the info asked for after i hit the apps store button?
>> something about a apple id and/or password?
>> is this similar to a user/password for i-tunes?
>> Bryan Schulz
>> 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Barbour" <jbar at barcore.com>
>> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 12:29 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] GPS in the Big City
>> 
>> 
>>> Osman,
>>> 
>>> I'm not sure what imove is.  I googled for it and didn't find
>>> anything.
>>> 
>>> Can you enlighten us?
>>> 
>>> Jim
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 11:59:48AM -0400, Osman Koroma wrote:
>>>> Whats the different between Blind Square and Imove?
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> On Apr 11, 2013, at 11:48, Jim Barbour <jbar at barcore.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hey Bryan,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I would say blind square is a really good place to start.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jim
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 10:44:37AM -0500, Bryan Schulz wrote:
>>>>>> hi,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> exactly, which one  is better for knowing what stores are close or >>
>>>> what
>>>>>> street you are close to?
>>>>>> Bryan Schulz
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher Chaltain"
>>>>>> <chaltain at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
>>>>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 9:53 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] GPS in the Big City
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I don't think there's a consensus on the best GPS app. I'd suggest
>>>>>>> giving
>>>>>>> the built in Maps app, Google Maps and MapQuest a try. They're all
>>>>>>> free.
>>>>>>> Navigon, which is not free, also gets mentioned quite a bit. It >>>
>>>> allows you
>>>>>>> to download and store maps on your phone, so if you're worried about
>>>>>>> data
>>>>>>> costs, this is a good option.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> There are also half a dozen apps or more that give you additional
>>>>>>> information, such as points of interest around you, nearby cross >>>
>>>> streets,
>>>>>>> information on public transportation and so on. Maybe you could >>>
>>>> provide a
>>>>>>> better idea of what you're looking for or take a look at
>>>> applevis.com >>> for
>>>>>>> more information on navigation apps and reviews and opinions by blind
>>>>>>> users.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 04/11/2013 09:37 AM, Osman Koroma wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>>>> Whats the best GPS app to use?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Apr 11, 2013, at 10:32, Jim Barbour <jbar at barcore.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I don't think anybody's map information includes information such
>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>> if there's a sidewalk.  This problem is compounded by a lack of
>>>>>>>>> information about contruction zones, etc.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Apps such as Google Maps will give you pedestrian routes to a
>>>>>>>>> destination.
>>>>>>>>> It is then up to us, as it is with a sighted pedestrian, to be
>>>>>>>>> aware
>>>>>>>>> of the route and any barriers pedestrians face while getting there.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Jim
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 08:51:32AM -0400, Gerald Levy wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> The problem with all these GPS apps and devices is that they are
>>>>>>>>>> designed to
>>>>>>>>>> simply give you directions for the shortest route between two
>>>>>>>>>> points, not
>>>>>>>>>> necessarily the safest route.  If these devices were truly >>>>>>
>>>> designed
>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>> blind pedestrians in mind, their primary route  suggestion,
>>>>>>>>>> regardless of
>>>>>>>>>> length, should include only streets with sidewals or walkways
>>>> that >>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>> isolated from traffic.    If no such route is available, then they
>>>>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>>>>> alert you to this fact.  When you use Google Maps to get >>>>>>
>>>> directions
>>>>>>>>>> between
>>>>>>>>>> two points, the walking directions include a warning, if
>>>>>>>>>> appropriate, that
>>>>>>>>>> some parts of the trip may involve walking on highways or other
>>>>>>>>>> areas that
>>>>>>>>>> might be hazardous.  GPS devices designed for the blind should do
>>>>>>>>>> the same.
>>>>>>>>>> After all, when you work with an O&M instructor, he will usually
>>>>>>>>>> recommend
>>>>>>>>>> the safest route between two points even if it means walking out
>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>> your way
>>>>>>>>>> to get to your destination.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Gerald
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tracy Carcione"
>>>>>>>>>> <carcione at access.net>
>>>>>>>>>> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
>>>>>>>>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 8:16 AM
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] GPS in the Big City
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Occasionally, I have asked Sendero GPS to create a pedestrian
>>>>>>>>>>> route,
>>>>>>>>>>> hoping it would give me a non-highway way to get somewhere, and
>>>>>>>>>>> it has
>>>>>>>>>>> told me to walk on the highway.  NOT!
>>>>>>>>>>> Tracy
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kaye" >>>>>>>
>>>> <kayezimpher at comcast.net>
>>>>>>>>>>> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
>>>>>>>>>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 5:01 PM
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] GPS in the Big City
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> I am from Atlanta, and while that is no Manhattan, I know many
>>>>>>>>>>>> blind
>>>>>>>>>>>> people who successfully use various gps apps on their Iphones.
>>>> I >>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>> only heard of one time that the gps advised a person to turn on
>>>>>>>>>>>> to the
>>>>>>>>>>>> highway, even though the app was in pedestrian mode. That might
>>>>>>>>>>>> not have
>>>>>>>>>>>> ended well if he had not know where he was going.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: David Andrews
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 12:37 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Tracy Carcione ; Discussion of accessible electronics and
>>>>>>>>>>>> appliances
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] GPS in the Big City
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> I have used Street Talk on a Pac Mate, in the distant past, and
>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>> Philadelphia, I had the same problems with tall buildings.\
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> At 10:49 AM 4/10/2013, you wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I work in midtown Manhattan.  I have Sendero GPS, running on a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Braillenote PK.  I find it pretty unreliable in New York City,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> probably because of the many tall buildings.  It frequently
>>>>>>>>>>>>> says I'm 2
>>>>>>>>>>>>> blocks away from where I know I am, and heading in a different
>>>>>>>>>>>>> direction than I'm heading.  My question is, does this happen
>>>>>>>>>>>>> with all
>>>>>>>>>>>>> GPS in big cities, or is it because the GPS is running on a
>>>> PK, >>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the most powerful system in the world? Would, say, IPhone GPS
>>>>>>>>>>>>> be more
>>>>>>>>>>>>> reliable in the big city?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am only interested in the big city aspect.  At home, in north
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jersey, the Sendero and PK work reasonably well.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tracy
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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