[Electronics-talk] Identifying Groceries

Mon Aug 5 18:02:22 UTC 2013

Lori,
So to clarify, you're saying TapTapSee works when you get a good picture of 
the product.
Digit eyes on the other hand is a bar code scanner. So this means, if I 
understand this, the difference is one requires you to take a picture 
whereas the other requires you to scan the barcode.

You get what you pay for. The first ap is free and does not sound as 
reliable.
>From your description, if I used I device aps, I'd pick digit eyes.
However, as I've said before, I don't have a need or the patience to use the 
iphones. I wish I had a phone though that can read text messages! I have 
verizon and few of their regular phones have talking abilities; mine simply 
reads the incoming call.
I've considered getting an itouch or ipad someday though when I can afford 
it.

If you scan the barcode with digit eyes, you say it gives you ingredient 
info and cooking instructions if its on the package.
Have you found that digit eyes has the majority of products in the database? 
Will it identify bathroom accessories too such as a bottle of shampoo from 
lotion or conditioner?
Those have similar feeling bottles in my experience.
How specific is this information about the product? For instance will it say 
"vegetable soup" or say the brand you have too.
Is this a quick recognition thing? Do you use voice over to listen to the 
information or what speech?

Barcodes are often found at the bottom of a can or package, and someone told 
me on cans its by the paper crease. I have not looked to varify that though, 
I can see a little straight ahead.
I'd imagine with practice you'd remember where barcodes are on certain 
products.
I did see a barcode ap demonstrated at the rehab center. It  was neat. It 
was a fast scan and fairly clear voice announcing the product.
I wonder if this was digit eyes.

Some of us mentioned computer databases to use with the barcode scanners.
However, this person asked about the technique to  identify  groceries. I 
don't know about you all, but I've never met a person who broght the 
computer to the kitchen!
I would certainly not like that idea. There is water, liquids and other 
stuff I would not want to risk touching the laptop with.
Unless you had the computer far from the counters, I do not recommend 
bringing  pcs or any delicate electronics in the kitchen.
You could scan the groceries with a iphone barcode ap, I suppose, as long as 
it’s a dry item. An iphone is much easier to carry safely in a kitchen 
because its small and you can store it in a pocket when you're finished.

I think this person't best option is:
1. use an ap
2. use a audio labeler that I suggested
3. use a stand alone device like the ID mate.

Interesting discussion. I think with all this good news about having 
ingredient info accessible and more, I just might buy  a barcode ap when I 
buy a  I device.
Ashley
-----Original Message----- 
From: Lori Motis
Sent: Monday, August 05, 2013 1:35 PM
To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Identifying Groceries

Hi ray,
I know, for me,  TapTapSee works best when you position the object
about 8 to 12 inches from the object, in good light, before taking the
picture. Also, sometimes I need to take several pictures, at various
angles, to get more info.
For a free app, it does give some useful info, but not everything you
would like  to know. Also, I have found, at different times of the
day, you can get better results due to crowd sourcing.
Digit-eyes is a paid app, costing close to $20, and is an actual bar
code scanner. Once you find the bar code, it gives you the name of the
product, plus you can get more info like ingredients and even cooking
directions. I have had to get used to where the bar codes are on
various items, but it does work well. I just have to be a bit more
patient with some things searching for where the heck the bar code is
located. Again, the distance and lighting play a big part in finding
the code.
It also has other features for recording your own labels.
I do not know if the A T guys scanner can be hooked to a mac or not,
but their website should give info on it.
Lori AKA Food lady

On 8/5/13, Ray Foret jr <rforetjr at att.net> wrote:
> Well, I know that I tried Tap Tap See on a bottle of flavoring for my Soda
> Stream, and all it told me was that it was an ingredience list but did not
> read me the actual writing on the botle so I could not tell what flavoring 
> I
> had.
>
> What, therefore, is the difference between Digit-eyes and Tap Tap See?
>
>
> Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind
> built-in!
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray
> Still a very proud and happy Mac and Iphone user!
>
> On Aug 5, 2013, at 9:30 AM, Lori Motis <ljm2561 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I too find the bar code scanner from A T Guys to work great for the
>> fraction of the cost. I use it for most items. It plugs into a PC or
>> notetaker , via the USB port, that is connected to the internet. When
>> it located the bar code, ti then gives you quite a bit of inof, and if
>> you need more you can enter on the link that goes to
>> directionsforme.org. I also use TapTapSee, Digit-eyes, and even
>> Talking Goggle, although, for some reason, Talking Goggles is not
>> working since the last two updates.
>> I hope this helps.
>> Lori AKA food Lady
>>
>>
>> On 8/5/13, Barcore <jbar at barcore.com> wrote:
>>> Yeah, I understand that it could take a long time to find a barcode with
>>> the
>>> ID mate. My question is how does that compare to finding a barcode with
>>> the
>>> video camera on the iPhone?
>>>
>>> Jim
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Aug 5, 2013, at 4:25 AM, Pamela Dominguez <geodom at optonline.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sometimes, it takes me a long time to find the bar code with my id
>>>> mate.
>>>> Pam.
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Barbour" <jbar at barcore.com>
>>>> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
>>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2013 8:35 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Identifying Groceries
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I'm not sure if one would have the same problem with the more
>>>>> expsndive
>>>>> option.
>>>>>
>>>>> Laser based barcode readers like the ID made do a much better job of
>>>>> detecting and scanning barcodes at odd angles, distances, and
>>>>> orientations than the video camera of a smartphone.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jim
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Aug 04, 2013 at 08:06:54PM -0400, Annette Carr wrote:
>>>>>> Yes, but you have that same problem with the $1200 option.  The Apple
>>>>>> Apps
>>>>>> VisWiz, O-moby and Google Noggles are alternative that take a picture
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> item and do not use a barcode.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Annette
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Electronics-talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>>> On
>>>>>> Behalf Of Walter Cone
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2013 6:52 PM
>>>>>> To: 'Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances'
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Identifying Groceries
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes I do that too with Digiteyes.  The only problem I have is there
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> no
>>>>>> standard where the bar code is on various items.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Electronics-talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>>> On
>>>>>> Behalf Of Annette Carr
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2013 5:36 PM
>>>>>> To: 'Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances'
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Identifying Groceries
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I use Digit-Eyes on my iPhone 4.  It works well once I got the hang
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> how
>>>>>> far to hold the phone from the item, and to move the item or the
>>>>>> phone
>>>>>> slowly.  The cost is either $19 or $9 in the Apple App Store.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> HTH,
>>>>>> Annette
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Electronics-talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>>> On
>>>>>> Behalf Of Sarah Clark
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2013 2:01 PM
>>>>>> To: electronics-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>>>> Subject: [Electronics-talk] Identifying Groceries
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have an ID Mate, which I love. It is a stand alone device that I
>>>>>> can
>>>>>> wave
>>>>>> over the bar code of a grocery item and it scans the bar code and
>>>>>> tells
>>>>>> me
>>>>>> what that item is. I have a friend who wants something that does the
>>>>>> same
>>>>>> thing, but the ID Mate costs $1,200, and she would prefer not to pay
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> much. I am wondering what other devices are out there that work the
>>>>>> same
>>>>>> way
>>>>>> (by scanning the bar code). Please share anything you are aware of --
>>>>>> iPhone
>>>>>> apps as well as stand alone devices.
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Sarah
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