[Electronics-talk] Miniguide

Fri Dec 13 01:02:22 UTC 2013

I apologize, Christopher, if you thought I was calling you a moderator.  I 
was just making fact of the moderator "putting me in my place," for 
questioning a topic once.

Vince

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Christopher Chaltain" <chaltain at gmail.com>
To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances" 
<electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2013 9:52 AM
Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Miniguide

>I apologize. I never intended to be seen as a list moderator. I just
> tried to point out, in a message which pointed out other suggestions and
> tips to list members, that in my opinion, this issue was off topic for
> the list. My intent being that the list would be more useful and run
> smoother if messages were kept on topic. Also, people stand a better
> chance of getting their questions answered if they post them to the
> right list where people expecting those topics are subscribed.
>
> The moderator should absolutely make the call on what is and is not on
> topic for the list and asking list members to let him do that is not
> hubris. That's the moderator's job and letting list members make that
> call individually is just asking for anarchy and a recipe for a useless
> list.
>
> I added that third point in my message as an afterthought, and I now
> regret it. I hope the list will forgive me and move on as if I'd never
> mentioned it at all. I shouldn't comment on what is and isn't on topic
> for the list, even as an opinion or an afterthought. I'm OK with letting
> David weigh in and make that call or not as he sees fit.
>
> On 12/11/2013 11:07 PM, cheez wrote:
>> I recall once, when I pointed out a topic as being unrelated to this
>> list, a moderator, in his hubristic way, informed me that it wasn't my
>> duty to deem what was on topic or what wasn't.  I was even judged by a
>> woman that I knew nothing about angels or saints.  but I digress on the
>> latter.
>> So, my question is, where is the moderator now?  I'm asking for fairness
>> here.
>>
>> and for those inquiring minds, The Mini Guide is a mobility device that
>> detects obstacles by using vibration.  I've used one [not sure which one
>> it was] and found it helpful--as long as I kept my cane from getting in
>> front of the device.  I don't know what's the difference between the 2
>> devices. However in my opinion, I chose not to use it.
>> Vince
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher Chaltain"
>> <chaltain at gmail.com>
>> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2013 4:37 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Miniguide
>>
>>
>>> A few other thoughts, ....
>>>
>>> It's probably a good practice to provide this type of information when
>>> posting a question about a device or an application that may not be
>>> familiar to everyone. It'll help get better answers more quickly, and
>>> it'll cut down on list traffic.
>>>
>>> If I see something mentioned I don't recognize, I'll either look it up
>>> in Google, as Jim suggests, or I'll just hit the delete key. I think the
>>> original poster has some responsibility here, see my previous point, and
>>> I don't always have the time to decipher a poorly thought out post.
>>>
>>> Finally, it's not my list, but this doesn't seem on topic for this list.
>>> I haven't been paying too much attention, but there seems to be a lot of
>>> off topic posts to this list lately, and I'm sure I'm guilty of this
>>> myself somewhat.
>>>
>>> On 12/11/2013 05:24 PM, Jim Barbour wrote:
>>>> I really don't want to seem snarky, but Google is your friend for
>>>> questions like this.  I typed in "miniguide blind" and got good
>>>> information.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.senderogroup.com/products/shopminiguide.htm
>>>>
>>>> The short version is...
>>>>
>>>> Detect obstacles in the palm of your hand with the 2 ounce ultrasonic
>>>> Miniguide.
>>>>
>>>> Augment information from other mobility aids, like the cane or dog
>>>> guide,with obstacle-detection by the Miniguide from 1.5 to 26 feet.
>>>>
>>>> The Miniguide is 3 inches long, 1.4 inches wide and .75 inches thick
>>>> including the single 123A battery. Two sensors covered by mesh at the
>>>> front of the unit send and receive the detection signals. Durable
>>>> plastic casing covers the rest of the unit.
>>>>
>>>> Jim
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 05:16:02PM -0600, Snow White Dove wrote:
>>>>> I’m sorry if I sound ignorant, but what is a mini guide?
>>>>>
>>>>> I’ve never heard of it before.
>>>>>
>>>>> Could someone give me some info on it.  It can be short and sweet
>>>>> and it can even be off list if necessary or preferable.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for understanding my ignorance about electronics of that sort.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jenny
>>>>> On Dec 11, 2013, at 3:45 PM, Sarah Clark <sarah at sarahaclark.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>> I am about to purchase a Miniguide, and I have a question for
>>>>>> anyone who has one. I know that in addition to the regular
>>>>>> Miniguide, there is also a Miniguide US version made by APH, and
>>>>>> the US version costs almost $200 more, so I am trying to figure out
>>>>>> if the US version is worth the additional cost?  From what I
>>>>>> understand, they both do the same thing, the US version just gives
>>>>>> quicker access to some of the functions by adding a second button.
>>>>>> But the regular Miniguide sounds completely usable to me. I am
>>>>>> wondering if people find the US version worthwhile over the regular
>>>>>> version, and if there is some other benefit to the US version that
>>>>>> I may be overlooking?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Sarah
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