[Electronics-talk] Microwave

Colleen McFadden mcfadden87 at cableone.net
Wed Feb 20 21:34:23 UTC 2013


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>    3. Re: Braille display recommendations (Baracco, Andrew W)
>    4. Re: Braille display recommendations (Dr. Denise M Robinson)
>    5. Re: Braille display recommendations (Larry L. Lewis)
>    6. Re: Exercise equipment (Annette Carr)
>    7. Re: Exercise equipment (Kendra Schaber)
>    8. Re: Exercise equipment (Alan Siman)
>    9. Re: Exercise equipment (Kendra Schaber)
>   10. webvisum help (Monty Cassellius)
>   11. Re: Exercise equipment (Alan Siman)
>   12. Re: webvisum help (Christopher Chaltain)
>   13. Re: webvisum help (Anita Ogletree)
>   14. Re: Braille display recommendations (Tracy Carcione)
>   15. Re: Braille display recommendations (Larry L. Lewis)
>   16. Re: Exercise equipment (Baracco, Andrew W)
>   17. Re: Exercise equipment (Baracco, Andrew W)
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> Thanks for all the responses.  I found a Whirlppool (under the cabnet)
> with a textured key pad. Yay! It was what I was looking for.  I had to
> buy it from a local company.  Lowes, Sears, and Home Depot didn't have
> anything.
>
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>>    3. Re: Exercise equipment (Philip Blackmer)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 13:27:43 -0800
>> From: "Kendra Schaber" <Baltimore777 at comcast.net>
>> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
>> 	<electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
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>> I know that you can make a microwave accessable if you get a model that
>> has
>>
>> flat buttons that don't change. You can braille lable the microwave as
>> long
>>
>> as you can get sited assistance to help you figure out where to place
>> them
>> and tell you what the buttons say in order for you to make the lables.
>> Fortunently, you only have to do this the first time that you get the
>> microwave and again only when the lables are no longer legeable or have
>> fallen off. I don't know of a moddle with raised buttons on the market.
>> You
>>
>> might have to do some major research to find the kind of microwave that
>> you
>>
>> want.
>> Kendra
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Colleen McFadden" <mcfadden87 at cableone.net>
>> To: <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2013 4:52 PM
>> Subject: [Electronics-talk] Microwave
>>
>>
>>> Hi everyone,
>>>
>>> Does anyone know of a microwave that is accessible?  I seem to recall
>>> that in the past, I bought a Whirlpool where I could find the buttons
>>> tactilly without having to put dots on the key pad myself.  Any
>>> suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Colleen McFadden
>>>
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>> Message: 2
>> Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 23:21:35 -0500
>> From: A Kelly <gadgetgirlkelly at gmail.com>
>> To: "electronics-talk at nfbnet.org" <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: [Electronics-talk] Exercise equipment
>> Message-ID: <5054DC4F-585D-4B36-8584-3CC5AC8298DE at gmail.com>
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>> Howdy everybody!
>>
>>   Does anyone know if there are any accessible fitness equipment machines
>> out there?  Are there any apps that can be used with a smart phone and
>> fitness equipment that can read your stats?
>>
>> Any suggestions on how a blind person can get their stats if a sighted
>> person is not available?
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> Anita
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 23:06:38 -0800
>> From: "Philip Blackmer" <pblackmer27 at gmail.com>
>> To: "'Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances'"
>> 	<electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Exercise equipment
>> Message-ID: <000001ce0e6f$aa4bb4d0$fee31e70$@com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> You can put indicator dots on a device like a tredmil and be able to
>> control
>> it non-visually.  You can then get a talking pedomitor *spelling?* that
>> can
>> also count calories and it may be as good as the display on the device
>> itself.  As for counting calories it migh even be more accurate.  The
>> other
>> option is to try the I-fit app if you have an IOS device and see if it is
>> accessible .  If it is then you can get a device that uses it and it may
>> do
>> the trick.  I make no promises that these will work, but they are worth
>> checking out. - Philip
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Electronics-talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of A Kelly
>> Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 8:22 PM
>> To: electronics-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: [Electronics-talk] Exercise equipment
>>
>> Howdy everybody!
>>
>>   Does anyone know if there are any accessible fitness equipment machines
>> out there?  Are there any apps that can be used with a smart phone and
>> fitness equipment that can read your stats?
>>
>> Any suggestions on how a blind person can get their stats if a sighted
>> person is not available?
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> Anita
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>
> --
> Colleen McFadden
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 10:42:33 -0800
> From: "Frida Aizenman" <aizenman at earthlink.net>
> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
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> If you are able to, it is always good to tell us model numbers.
> Cordially,
> Frida
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> To: <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 10:29 AM
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Electronics-talk Digest, Vol 82, Issue 18
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>
>> Thanks for all the responses.  I found a Whirlppool (under the cabnet)
>> with a textured key pad. Yay! It was what I was looking for.  I had to
>> buy it from a local company.  Lowes, Sears, and Home Depot didn't have
>> anything.
>>
>> On 2/19/13, electronics-talk-request at nfbnet.org
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>>>    1. Re: Microwave (Kendra Schaber)
>>>    2. Exercise equipment (A Kelly)
>>>    3. Re: Exercise equipment (Philip Blackmer)
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>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 13:27:43 -0800
>>> From: "Kendra Schaber" <Baltimore777 at comcast.net>
>>> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Microwave
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>>>
>>> I know that you can make a microwave accessable if you get a model that
>>> has
>>>
>>> flat buttons that don't change. You can braille lable the microwave as
>>> long
>>>
>>> as you can get sited assistance to help you figure out where to place
>>> them
>>> and tell you what the buttons say in order for you to make the lables.
>>> Fortunently, you only have to do this the first time that you get the
>>> microwave and again only when the lables are no longer legeable or have
>>> fallen off. I don't know of a moddle with raised buttons on the market.
>>> You
>>>
>>> might have to do some major research to find the kind of microwave that
>>> you
>>>
>>> want.
>>> Kendra
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Colleen McFadden" <mcfadden87 at cableone.net>
>>> To: <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2013 4:52 PM
>>> Subject: [Electronics-talk] Microwave
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone know of a microwave that is accessible?  I seem to recall
>>>> that in the past, I bought a Whirlpool where I could find the buttons
>>>> tactilly without having to put dots on the key pad myself.  Any
>>>> suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Colleen McFadden
>>>>
>>>> Freeway Fare
>>>> 401 Roosevelt
>>>> Pocatello, ID 83201
>>>> (208) 241-3204
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Electronics-talk mailing list
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 2
>>> Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 23:21:35 -0500
>>> From: A Kelly <gadgetgirlkelly at gmail.com>
>>> To: "electronics-talk at nfbnet.org" <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: [Electronics-talk] Exercise equipment
>>> Message-ID: <5054DC4F-585D-4B36-8584-3CC5AC8298DE at gmail.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>>
>>> Howdy everybody!
>>>
>>>   Does anyone know if there are any accessible fitness equipment
>>> machines
>>> out there?  Are there any apps that can be used with a smart phone and
>>> fitness equipment that can read your stats?
>>>
>>> Any suggestions on how a blind person can get their stats if a sighted
>>> person is not available?
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>> Anita
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 3
>>> Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 23:06:38 -0800
>>> From: "Philip Blackmer" <pblackmer27 at gmail.com>
>>> To: "'Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances'"
>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Exercise equipment
>>> Message-ID: <000001ce0e6f$aa4bb4d0$fee31e70$@com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>>
>>> You can put indicator dots on a device like a tredmil and be able to
>>> control
>>> it non-visually.  You can then get a talking pedomitor *spelling?* that
>>> can
>>> also count calories and it may be as good as the display on the device
>>> itself.  As for counting calories it migh even be more accurate.  The
>>> other
>>> option is to try the I-fit app if you have an IOS device and see if it
>>> is
>>> accessible .  If it is then you can get a device that uses it and it may
>>>
>>> do
>>> the trick.  I make no promises that these will work, but they are worth
>>> checking out. - Philip
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Electronics-talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>> Behalf Of A Kelly
>>> Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 8:22 PM
>>> To: electronics-talk at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: [Electronics-talk] Exercise equipment
>>>
>>> Howdy everybody!
>>>
>>>   Does anyone know if there are any accessible fitness equipment
>>> machines
>>> out there?  Are there any apps that can be used with a smart phone and
>>> fitness equipment that can read your stats?
>>>
>>> Any suggestions on how a blind person can get their stats if a sighted
>>> person is not available?
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>> Anita
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>>
>>
>> --
>> Colleen McFadden
>>
>> Freeway Fare
>> 401 Roosevelt
>> Pocatello, ID 83201
>> (208) 241-3204
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> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 13:11:42 -0800
> From: "Baracco, Andrew W" <Andrew.Baracco at va.gov>
> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
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> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Braille display recommendations
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> I would suggest that you find some way to take a look at them before you
> buy. 10 to 12 cells makes the device smaller and cheaper, but you can't
> do much reading with so few cells.  You're lucky to get 2 words on a 12
> cell display, and the constant advancing will drive you crazy.  Again,
> find a way to actually put your hands on one before you buy. If you are
> a good Braille reader, I would suggest a minimum of 20 cells.
>
> Andy
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Electronics-talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Linda Bloodsaw
> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 12:01 AM
> To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
> Subject: [Electronics-talk] Braille display recommendations
>
> Howdy,
>
> I want to buy a small (10 to 12  cell) display.  Are some better than
> others?  I  would be using it for light duty typing and reading.  I
> learned to read and type braille two years ago, and I think having a
> display would help me to improve my braille skills.  I will use it with
> my iPod Touch.  Your recommendations will be greatly appreciated.
> Thanks.
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> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 16:19:24 -0500
> From: "Dr. Denise M Robinson" <deniserob at gmail.com>
> To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
> 	<electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Larry Lewis <larry.lewis at flying-blind.com>
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Braille display recommendations
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> a great very small under $1000 braille display is the braille pen put out
> by flying blind..larry lewis--so easy to pair---actually the easiest to
> pair and I teach many tools. I love this little thing--quick and easy
> You can reach Larry at: larry.lewis at flying-blind.com
> I know he would be happy to help you
>
> Denise
>
> On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 4:11 PM, Baracco, Andrew W
> <Andrew.Baracco at va.gov>wrote:
>
>> I would suggest that you find some way to take a look at them before you
>> buy. 10 to 12 cells makes the device smaller and cheaper, but you can't
>> do much reading with so few cells.  You're lucky to get 2 words on a 12
>> cell display, and the constant advancing will drive you crazy.  Again,
>> find a way to actually put your hands on one before you buy. If you are
>> a good Braille reader, I would suggest a minimum of 20 cells.
>>
>> Andy
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Electronics-talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Linda Bloodsaw
>> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 12:01 AM
>> To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
>> Subject: [Electronics-talk] Braille display recommendations
>>
>> Howdy,
>>
>> I want to buy a small (10 to 12  cell) display.  Are some better than
>> others?  I  would be using it for light duty typing and reading.  I
>> learned to read and type braille two years ago, and I think having a
>> display would help me to improve my braille skills.  I will use it with
>> my iPod Touch.  Your recommendations will be greatly appreciated.
>> Thanks.
>> _______________________________________________
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>
>
>
> --
> *Dr Denise*
>
> Denise M. Robinson, TVI, Ph.D.
> CEO, TechVision, LLC
> Specialist in Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision
> 423-573-6413
>
> Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, Office
> products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with
> keystrokes: www.yourtechvision.com
>
> "The person who says it cannot be done, shouldn't interrupt the one who is
> doing it." --Chinese Proverb
>
> Computers are incredibly fast, accurate, and stupid: humans are incredibly
> slow, inaccurate and brilliant; together they are powerful beyond
> imagination.
> --Albert Einstein
>
> It's kind of fun to do the impossible.
> --Walt Disney
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 18:22:55 -0500
> From: "Larry L. Lewis" <larry.lewis at flying-blind.com>
> To: "'Dr. Denise M Robinson'" <deniserob at gmail.com>,	"'Discussion of
> 	accessible electronics and appliances'"	<electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Braille display recommendations
> Message-ID: <001b01ce0ef8$0d791380$286b3a80$@flying-blind.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Thanks Dr. Robinson for the kind words. If this response doesn't make it
> through, feel free to forward.
>
>
>
> I read with great interest the discussion below about Braille display
> lengths. To be sure, more Braille is definitely a nicety, but is it
> necessary at all times when economics play a factor. I'm a totally blind
> Braille user and use both a 12 cell and a 32 cell Braille display. While
> one
> does have to advance the display quite a bit more than he would using a 32
> or 40 cell display, his hands actually travel less-so you trade hand travel
> for advancing the display.
>
>
>
> What I mean is, it's very feasible for a two-handed Braille reader to use
> his index fingers and advance the display without moving his fingers off
> the
> display to read a book, or a long document. I have sighted friends of mine
> who read books and long docs on their cell phone screens-do they use larger
> screens at times? Yes, but they're not tethered to them just because
> someone
> says that they're better off if they are. Please feel free to contact me
> using any of the contact details below if you have any further questions
> about BraillePen, or Braille with IOS technology.
>
>
>
>
>
> Warmest Regards,
> Larry L. Lewis, Jr.
> President and Founder
> Flying Blind, LLC
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>
>
>
> From: Dr. Denise M Robinson [mailto:deniserob at gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 4:19 PM
> To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
> Cc: Larry Lewis
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Braille display recommendations
>
>
>
> a great very small under $1000 braille display is the braille pen put out
> by
> flying blind..larry lewis--so easy to pair---actually the easiest to pair
> and I teach many tools. I love this little thing--quick and easy
> You can reach Larry at: larry.lewis at flying-blind.com
> I know he would be happy to help you
>
> Denise
>
> On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 4:11 PM, Baracco, Andrew W <Andrew.Baracco at va.gov>
> wrote:
>
> I would suggest that you find some way to take a look at them before you
> buy. 10 to 12 cells makes the device smaller and cheaper, but you can't
> do much reading with so few cells.  You're lucky to get 2 words on a 12
> cell display, and the constant advancing will drive you crazy.  Again,
> find a way to actually put your hands on one before you buy. If you are
> a good Braille reader, I would suggest a minimum of 20 cells.
>
> Andy
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Electronics-talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Linda Bloodsaw
> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 12:01 AM
> To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
> Subject: [Electronics-talk] Braille display recommendations
>
> Howdy,
>
> I want to buy a small (10 to 12  cell) display.  Are some better than
> others?  I  would be using it for light duty typing and reading.  I
> learned to read and type braille two years ago, and I think having a
> display would help me to improve my braille skills.  I will use it with
> my iPod Touch.  Your recommendations will be greatly appreciated.
> Thanks.
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>
>
>
> --
> Dr Denise
>
> Denise M. Robinson, TVI, Ph.D.
> CEO, TechVision, LLC
> Specialist in Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision
> 423-573-6413
>
> Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, Office
> products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with
> keystrokes: www.yourtechvision.com  <http://www.yourtechvision.com>
>
> "The person who says it cannot be done, shouldn't interrupt the one who is
> doing it." --Chinese Proverb
>
> Computers are incredibly fast, accurate, and stupid: humans are incredibly
> slow, inaccurate and brilliant; together they are powerful beyond
> imagination.
> --Albert Einstein
>
> It's kind of fun to do the impossible.
> --Walt Disney
>
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 20:29:10 -0500
> From: "Annette Carr" <amcarr1 at verizon.net>
> To: "'Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances'"
> 	<electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Exercise equipment
> Message-ID: <004001ce0f09$af5d1b40$0e1751c0$@verizon.net>
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>
> Hi Anita,
>
> Check out a line of workout equipment that is called iFit.  We have an
> elliptical that is from this line and it allows you to play MP3 or video
> segments that are made to interface with the equipment.  They had a way to
> interface your computer to track and monitor your performance and progress.
> I have not checked them out recently to find out if they interface with the
> Apple products.
>
> You might want to check out an app called My Fitness Pal.  It is a great
> app
> for tracking your food, water and exercise.
>
> HTH,
> Annette
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Electronics-talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of A Kelly
> Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 11:22 PM
> To: electronics-talk at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [Electronics-talk] Exercise equipment
>
> Howdy everybody!
>
>   Does anyone know if there are any accessible fitness equipment machines
> out there?  Are there any apps that can be used with a smart phone and
> fitness equipment that can read your stats?
>
> Any suggestions on how a blind person can get their stats if a sighted
> person is not available?
>
> Sincerely,
> Anita
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 20:28:00 -0800
> From: "Kendra Schaber" <Baltimore777 at comcast.net>
> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
> 	<electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Exercise equipment
> Message-ID: <F1F3BAC6197C4BD490D51F62374F386D at your90477e8f53>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> 	reply-type=original
>
> Does anyone know if the app called My Fitness Pal accessable with Voice
> Over?
> Kendra
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Annette Carr" <amcarr1 at verizon.net>
> To: "'Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances'"
> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 5:29 PM
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Exercise equipment
>
>
>> Hi Anita,
>>
>> Check out a line of workout equipment that is called iFit.  We have an
>> elliptical that is from this line and it allows you to play MP3 or video
>> segments that are made to interface with the equipment.  They had a way
>> to
>> interface your computer to track and monitor your performance and
>> progress.
>> I have not checked them out recently to find out if they interface with
>> the
>> Apple products.
>>
>> You might want to check out an app called My Fitness Pal.  It is a great
>> app
>> for tracking your food, water and exercise.
>>
>> HTH,
>> Annette
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Electronics-talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of A Kelly
>> Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 11:22 PM
>> To: electronics-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: [Electronics-talk] Exercise equipment
>>
>> Howdy everybody!
>>
>>  Does anyone know if there are any accessible fitness equipment machines
>> out there?  Are there any apps that can be used with a smart phone and
>> fitness equipment that can read your stats?
>>
>> Any suggestions on how a blind person can get their stats if a sighted
>> person is not available?
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> Anita
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>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 20:34:43 -0800
> From: Alan Siman <alansiman at cox.net>
> To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
> 	<electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Exercise equipment
> Message-ID: <51245263.2010702 at cox.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Yes it is accessible and very useful especially the search foods portion.
> On 2/19/2013 8:28 PM, Kendra Schaber wrote:
>> Does anyone know if the app called My Fitness Pal accessable with
>> Voice Over?
>> Kendra
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Annette Carr" <amcarr1 at verizon.net>
>> To: "'Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances'"
>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 5:29 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Exercise equipment
>>
>>
>>> Hi Anita,
>>>
>>> Check out a line of workout equipment that is called iFit.  We have an
>>> elliptical that is from this line and it allows you to play MP3 or video
>>> segments that are made to interface with the equipment.  They had a
>>> way to
>>> interface your computer to track and monitor your performance and
>>> progress.
>>> I have not checked them out recently to find out if they interface
>>> with the
>>> Apple products.
>>>
>>> You might want to check out an app called My Fitness Pal.  It is a
>>> great app
>>> for tracking your food, water and exercise.
>>>
>>> HTH,
>>> Annette
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Electronics-talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>> Behalf Of A Kelly
>>> Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 11:22 PM
>>> To: electronics-talk at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: [Electronics-talk] Exercise equipment
>>>
>>> Howdy everybody!
>>>
>>>  Does anyone know if there are any accessible fitness equipment machines
>>> out there?  Are there any apps that can be used with a smart phone and
>>> fitness equipment that can read your stats?
>>>
>>> Any suggestions on how a blind person can get their stats if a sighted
>>> person is not available?
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>> Anita
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>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 21:21:31 -0800
> From: "Kendra Schaber" <Baltimore777 at comcast.net>
> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
> 	<electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Exercise equipment
> Message-ID: <8D67BDDBC05E470A90BEE674898A581F at your90477e8f53>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> 	reply-type=response
>
> I'll have to give it a try. Does it work with the latest IOS softwhare?
> Kendra
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Alan Siman" <alansiman at cox.net>
> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 8:34 PM
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Exercise equipment
>
>
>> Yes it is accessible and very useful especially the search foods portion.
>> On 2/19/2013 8:28 PM, Kendra Schaber wrote:
>>> Does anyone know if the app called My Fitness Pal accessable with Voice
>>> Over?
>>> Kendra
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Annette Carr" <amcarr1 at verizon.net>
>>> To: "'Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances'"
>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 5:29 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Exercise equipment
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi Anita,
>>>>
>>>> Check out a line of workout equipment that is called iFit.  We have an
>>>> elliptical that is from this line and it allows you to play MP3 or
>>>> video
>>>> segments that are made to interface with the equipment.  They had a way
>>>>
>>>> to
>>>> interface your computer to track and monitor your performance and
>>>> progress.
>>>> I have not checked them out recently to find out if they interface with
>>>>
>>>> the
>>>> Apple products.
>>>>
>>>> You might want to check out an app called My Fitness Pal.  It is a great
>>>>
>>>> app
>>>> for tracking your food, water and exercise.
>>>>
>>>> HTH,
>>>> Annette
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Electronics-talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>> Behalf Of A Kelly
>>>> Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 11:22 PM
>>>> To: electronics-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>> Subject: [Electronics-talk] Exercise equipment
>>>>
>>>> Howdy everybody!
>>>>
>>>>  Does anyone know if there are any accessible fitness equipment
>>>> machines
>>>> out there?  Are there any apps that can be used with a smart phone and
>>>> fitness equipment that can read your stats?
>>>>
>>>> Any suggestions on how a blind person can get their stats if a sighted
>>>> person is not available?
>>>>
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>> Anita
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>
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>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2013 00:17:31 -0600
> From: "Monty Cassellius" <isu.redbirds at charter.net>
> To: <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: [Electronics-talk] webvisum help
> Message-ID: <00d601ce0f31$f7764320$e662c960$@charter.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"
>
> Hello
> I have installed the webvisum app/extension for firefox but now I need
> direcitons as to how to use the webvisum to use the software to get by the
> visual verification screen some website uses when applying for new accounts
>
> Thanks]
> Monty
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 22:34:11 -0800
> From: Alan Siman <alansiman at cox.net>
> To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
> 	<electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Exercise equipment
> Message-ID: <51246E63.6000206 at cox.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> YES
> On 2/19/2013 9:21 PM, Kendra Schaber wrote:
>> I'll have to give it a try. Does it work with the latest IOS softwhare?
>> Kendra
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Siman" <alansiman at cox.net>
>> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 8:34 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Exercise equipment
>>
>>
>>> Yes it is accessible and very useful especially the search foods
>>> portion.
>>> On 2/19/2013 8:28 PM, Kendra Schaber wrote:
>>>> Does anyone know if the app called My Fitness Pal accessable with
>>>> Voice Over?
>>>> Kendra
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Annette Carr" <amcarr1 at verizon.net>
>>>> To: "'Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances'"
>>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 5:29 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Exercise equipment
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Anita,
>>>>>
>>>>> Check out a line of workout equipment that is called iFit. We have an
>>>>> elliptical that is from this line and it allows you to play MP3 or
>>>>> video
>>>>> segments that are made to interface with the equipment. They had a
>>>>> way to
>>>>> interface your computer to track and monitor your performance and
>>>>> progress.
>>>>> I have not checked them out recently to find out if they interface
>>>>> with the
>>>>> Apple products.
>>>>>
>>>>> You might want to check out an app called My Fitness Pal. It is a
>>>>> great app
>>>>> for tracking your food, water and exercise.
>>>>>
>>>>> HTH,
>>>>> Annette
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Electronics-talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>> Behalf Of A Kelly
>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 11:22 PM
>>>>> To: electronics-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>>> Subject: [Electronics-talk] Exercise equipment
>>>>>
>>>>> Howdy everybody!
>>>>>
>>>>>  Does anyone know if there are any accessible fitness equipment
>>>>> machines
>>>>> out there?  Are there any apps that can be used with a smart phone and
>>>>> fitness equipment that can read your stats?
>>>>>
>>>>> Any suggestions on how a blind person can get their stats if a sighted
>>>>> person is not available?
>>>>>
>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>> Anita
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Electronics-talk mailing list
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> zon.net
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2013 02:46:22 -0600
> From: Christopher Chaltain <chaltain at gmail.com>
> To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
> 	<electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] webvisum help
> Message-ID: <51248D5E.8090008 at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> On a page with the captcha, press control+alt+6 and wait for the
> solution to show up in your clipboard. For more information check out
> the help for Webvisum with control+f1, and of course there's information
> on the Webvisum web site.
>
> Based on my understanding of what's on topic for this list, I'd suggest
> taking this to a general computing list for the blind.
>
> On 20/02/13 00:17, Monty Cassellius wrote:
>> Hello
>> I have installed the webvisum app/extension for firefox but now I need
>> direcitons as to how to use the webvisum to use the software to get by
>> the
>> visual verification screen some website uses when applying for new
>> accounts
>>
>> Thanks]
>> Monty
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>>
>
> --
> Christopher (CJ)
> chaltain at Gmail
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 13
> Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2013 09:56:55 -0500
> From: Anita Ogletree <anita.ogletree63 at gmail.com>
> To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
> 	<electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] webvisum help
> Message-ID:
> 	<CAF0Pwe7OLz05dxbv+b6+adRPjBwLfd56XsB7rtdzeYMf5K8h+A at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Monty,
> If you'd like, you can contact me off line regarding Webvissum.
>
>
>
> On 2/20/13, Monty Cassellius <isu.redbirds at charter.net> wrote:
>> Hello
>> I have installed the webvisum app/extension for firefox but now I need
>> direcitons as to how to use the webvisum to use the software to get by
>> the
>> visual verification screen some website uses when applying for new
>> accounts
>>
>> Thanks]
>> Monty
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>>
>
>
> --
> Sincerely,
>
> Anita Ogletree
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 14
> Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2013 11:34:14 -0500
> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
> To: <larry.lewis at flying-blind.com>,	"Discussion of accessible
> 	electronics and appliances"	<electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Braille display recommendations
> Message-ID: <915DE88F249D41B2A2CFE059742C70DD at tracy>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> 	reply-type=original
>
> Does the Braille Pen have an auto-scroll function, so that, if one is
> reading a longer document, one doesn't constantly have to keep pressing
> Advance?
> Tracy
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Larry L. Lewis" <larry.lewis at flying-blind.com>
> To: "'Dr. Denise M Robinson'" <deniserob at gmail.com>; "'Discussion of
> accessible electronics and appliances'" <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 6:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Braille display recommendations
>
>
>> Thanks Dr. Robinson for the kind words. If this response doesn't make it
>> through, feel free to forward.
>>
>>
>>
>> I read with great interest the discussion below about Braille display
>> lengths. To be sure, more Braille is definitely a nicety, but is it
>> necessary at all times when economics play a factor. I'm a totally blind
>> Braille user and use both a 12 cell and a 32 cell Braille display. While
>> one
>> does have to advance the display quite a bit more than he would using a
>> 32
>> or 40 cell display, his hands actually travel less-so you trade hand
>> travel
>> for advancing the display.
>>
>>
>>
>> What I mean is, it's very feasible for a two-handed Braille reader to use
>> his index fingers and advance the display without moving his fingers off
>> the
>> display to read a book, or a long document. I have sighted friends of
>> mine
>> who read books and long docs on their cell phone screens-do they use
>> larger
>> screens at times? Yes, but they're not tethered to them just because
>> someone
>> says that they're better off if they are. Please feel free to contact me
>> using any of the contact details below if you have any further questions
>> about BraillePen, or Braille with IOS technology.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Warmest Regards,
>> Larry L. Lewis, Jr.
>> President and Founder
>> Flying Blind, LLC
>> Description: Description: Description: Description: Description:
>> http://www.flying-blind.com/fboutlooksig/fb_logo_4outlook_sig.gif
>> Office Phone: +1 (216) 381-8107
>> E-Mail:  <mailto:larry.lewis at flying-blind.com>
>> Larry.Lewis at Flying-Blind.com
>> Web:  <http://www.flying-blind.com/> www.Flying-Blind.com
>>
>> Visit The Flying Blind Product Store At:
>> http://www.flying-blind.com/store.html
>>
>> Follow Flying Blind on Facebook:
>> <http://www.facebook.com/flyingblindllc>
>> www.facebook.com/flyingblindllc
>>
>> Follow Flying Blind on YouTube:  <http://www.youtube.com/flyingblindllc>
>> www.youtube.com/flyingblindllc
>>
>> LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/LarryLLewisJR
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Dr. Denise M Robinson [mailto:deniserob at gmail.com]
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 4:19 PM
>> To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
>> Cc: Larry Lewis
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Braille display recommendations
>>
>>
>>
>> a great very small under $1000 braille display is the braille pen put out
>>
>> by
>> flying blind..larry lewis--so easy to pair---actually the easiest to pair
>> and I teach many tools. I love this little thing--quick and easy
>> You can reach Larry at: larry.lewis at flying-blind.com
>> I know he would be happy to help you
>>
>> Denise
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 4:11 PM, Baracco, Andrew W
>> <Andrew.Baracco at va.gov>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I would suggest that you find some way to take a look at them before you
>> buy. 10 to 12 cells makes the device smaller and cheaper, but you can't
>> do much reading with so few cells.  You're lucky to get 2 words on a 12
>> cell display, and the constant advancing will drive you crazy.  Again,
>> find a way to actually put your hands on one before you buy. If you are
>> a good Braille reader, I would suggest a minimum of 20 cells.
>>
>> Andy
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Electronics-talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Linda Bloodsaw
>> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 12:01 AM
>> To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
>> Subject: [Electronics-talk] Braille display recommendations
>>
>> Howdy,
>>
>> I want to buy a small (10 to 12  cell) display.  Are some better than
>> others?  I  would be using it for light duty typing and reading.  I
>> learned to read and type braille two years ago, and I think having a
>> display would help me to improve my braille skills.  I will use it with
>> my iPod Touch.  Your recommendations will be greatly appreciated.
>> Thanks.
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>>
>>
>> --
>> Dr Denise
>>
>> Denise M. Robinson, TVI, Ph.D.
>> CEO, TechVision, LLC
>> Specialist in Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision
>> 423-573-6413
>>
>> Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, Office
>> products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with
>> keystrokes: www.yourtechvision.com  <http://www.yourtechvision.com>
>>
>> "The person who says it cannot be done, shouldn't interrupt the one who
>> is
>> doing it." --Chinese Proverb
>>
>> Computers are incredibly fast, accurate, and stupid: humans are
>> incredibly
>> slow, inaccurate and brilliant; together they are powerful beyond
>> imagination.
>> --Albert Einstein
>>
>> It's kind of fun to do the impossible.
>> --Walt Disney
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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> Message: 15
> Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2013 11:56:00 -0500
> From: "Larry L. Lewis" <larry.lewis at flying-blind.com>
> To: "'Tracy Carcione'" <carcione at access.net>,	"'Discussion of
> 	accessible electronics and appliances'"	<electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Braille display recommendations
> Message-ID: <000301ce0f8b$2b0dd280$81297780$@flying-blind.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"
>
> Unfortunately, all of the Braille devices supported by VoiceOver are tied
> to
> the functionality that VoiceOver offers. At this point, there is no
> autoscroll functionality within Voiceover for Braille displays, and the
> command to read continuously with speech doesn't sync with the Braille
> display. It took the folks at Freedom Scientific almost 10 years from the
> time they introduced Braille access to JAWS to put this autoscroll function
> within JAWS, so here's hoping that Apple moves a little faster than
> this--smiles!
> Warmest Regards,
> Larry L. Lewis, Jr.
> President and Founder
> Flying Blind, LLC
>
> Office Phone: +1 (216) 381-8107
> E-Mail: Larry.Lewis at Flying-Blind.com
> Web: www.Flying-Blind.com
> Visit The Flying Blind Product Store At:
> http://www.flying-blind.com/store.html
> Follow Flying Blind on Facebook: www.facebook.com/flyingblindllc
> Follow Flying Blind on YouTube: www.youtube.com/flyingblindllc
> LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/LarryLLewisJR
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tracy Carcione [mailto:carcione at access.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 11:34 AM
> To: larry.lewis at flying-blind.com; Discussion of accessible electronics and
> appliances
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Braille display recommendations
>
> Does the Braille Pen have an auto-scroll function, so that, if one is
> reading a longer document, one doesn't constantly have to keep pressing
> Advance?
> Tracy
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Larry L. Lewis" <larry.lewis at flying-blind.com>
> To: "'Dr. Denise M Robinson'" <deniserob at gmail.com>; "'Discussion of
> accessible electronics and appliances'" <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 6:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Braille display recommendations
>
>
>> Thanks Dr. Robinson for the kind words. If this response doesn't make
>> it through, feel free to forward.
>>
>>
>>
>> I read with great interest the discussion below about Braille display
>> lengths. To be sure, more Braille is definitely a nicety, but is it
>> necessary at all times when economics play a factor. I'm a totally
>> blind Braille user and use both a 12 cell and a 32 cell Braille
>> display. While one does have to advance the display quite a bit more
>> than he would using a 32 or 40 cell display, his hands actually travel
>> less-so you trade hand travel for advancing the display.
>>
>>
>>
>> What I mean is, it's very feasible for a two-handed Braille reader to
>> use his index fingers and advance the display without moving his
>> fingers off the display to read a book, or a long document. I have
>> sighted friends of mine who read books and long docs on their cell
>> phone screens-do they use larger screens at times? Yes, but they're
>> not tethered to them just because someone says that they're better off
>> if they are. Please feel free to contact me using any of the contact
>> details below if you have any further questions about BraillePen, or
>> Braille with IOS technology.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Warmest Regards,
>> Larry L. Lewis, Jr.
>> President and Founder
>> Flying Blind, LLC
>> Description: Description: Description: Description: Description:
>> http://www.flying-blind.com/fboutlooksig/fb_logo_4outlook_sig.gif
>> Office Phone: +1 (216) 381-8107
>> E-Mail:  <mailto:larry.lewis at flying-blind.com>
>> Larry.Lewis at Flying-Blind.com
>> Web:  <http://www.flying-blind.com/> www.Flying-Blind.com
>>
>> Visit The Flying Blind Product Store At:
>> http://www.flying-blind.com/store.html
>>
>> Follow Flying Blind on Facebook:
>> <http://www.facebook.com/flyingblindllc>
>> www.facebook.com/flyingblindllc
>>
>> Follow Flying Blind on YouTube:
>> <http://www.youtube.com/flyingblindllc>
>> www.youtube.com/flyingblindllc
>>
>> LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/LarryLLewisJR
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Dr. Denise M Robinson [mailto:deniserob at gmail.com]
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 4:19 PM
>> To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
>> Cc: Larry Lewis
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Braille display recommendations
>>
>>
>>
>> a great very small under $1000 braille display is the braille pen put
>> out by flying blind..larry lewis--so easy to pair---actually the
>> easiest to pair and I teach many tools. I love this little
>> thing--quick and easy You can reach Larry at:
>> larry.lewis at flying-blind.com I know he would be happy to help you
>>
>> Denise
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 4:11 PM, Baracco, Andrew W
>> <Andrew.Baracco at va.gov>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I would suggest that you find some way to take a look at them before
>> you buy. 10 to 12 cells makes the device smaller and cheaper, but you
>> can't do much reading with so few cells.  You're lucky to get 2 words
>> on a 12 cell display, and the constant advancing will drive you crazy.
>> Again, find a way to actually put your hands on one before you buy. If
>> you are a good Braille reader, I would suggest a minimum of 20 cells.
>>
>> Andy
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Electronics-talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Linda Bloodsaw
>> Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 12:01 AM
>> To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
>> Subject: [Electronics-talk] Braille display recommendations
>>
>> Howdy,
>>
>> I want to buy a small (10 to 12  cell) display.  Are some better than
>> others?  I  would be using it for light duty typing and reading.  I
>> learned to read and type braille two years ago, and I think having a
>> display would help me to improve my braille skills.  I will use it
>> with my iPod Touch.  Your recommendations will be greatly appreciated.
>> Thanks.
>> _______________________________________________
>> Electronics-talk mailing list
>> Electronics-talk at nfbnet.org
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>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Dr Denise
>>
>> Denise M. Robinson, TVI, Ph.D.
>> CEO, TechVision, LLC
>> Specialist in Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision
>> 423-573-6413
>>
>> Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC,
>> Office products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with
>> keystrokes: www.yourtechvision.com  <http://www.yourtechvision.com>
>>
>> "The person who says it cannot be done, shouldn't interrupt the one
>> who is doing it." --Chinese Proverb
>>
>> Computers are incredibly fast, accurate, and stupid: humans are
>> incredibly slow, inaccurate and brilliant; together they are powerful
>> beyond imagination.
>> --Albert Einstein
>>
>> It's kind of fun to do the impossible.
>> --Walt Disney
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 16
> Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2013 09:05:33 -0800
> From: "Baracco, Andrew W" <Andrew.Baracco at va.gov>
> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
> 	<electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Exercise equipment
> Message-ID:
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>
> There is an iPhone app called iTreadmill that is accessible with the
> Voiceover screen reader. There are a couple of apps, one called
> Runtastic heart Rate Pro, that will tell you your heart rate by placing
> your index finger over the camera lense.
>
> Andy
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Electronics-talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of A Kelly
> Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 8:22 PM
> To: electronics-talk at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [Electronics-talk] Exercise equipment
>
> Howdy everybody!
>
>   Does anyone know if there are any accessible fitness equipment
> machines out there?  Are there any apps that can be used with a smart
> phone and fitness equipment that can read your stats?
>
> Any suggestions on how a blind person can get their stats if a sighted
> person is not available?
>
> Sincerely,
> Anita
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>
> Message: 17
> Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2013 09:07:21 -0800
> From: "Baracco, Andrew W" <Andrew.Baracco at va.gov>
> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
> 	<electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Exercise equipment
> Message-ID:
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> I have a treadmill with flat panel controls that I marked with Dimo tape
> like my microwave oven.
>
> Andy
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Electronics-talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Philip Blackmer
> Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 11:07 PM
> To: 'Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances'
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Exercise equipment
>
> You can put indicator dots on a device like a tredmil and be able to
> control it non-visually.  You can then get a talking pedomitor
> *spelling?* that can also count calories and it may be as good as the
> display on the device itself.  As for counting calories it migh even be
> more accurate.  The other option is to try the I-fit app if you have an
> IOS device and see if it is accessible .  If it is then you can get a
> device that uses it and it may do the trick.  I make no promises that
> these will work, but they are worth checking out. - Philip
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Electronics-talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of A Kelly
> Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 8:22 PM
> To: electronics-talk at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [Electronics-talk] Exercise equipment
>
> Howdy everybody!
>
>   Does anyone know if there are any accessible fitness equipment
> machines out there?  Are there any apps that can be used with a smart
> phone and fitness equipment that can read your stats?
>
> Any suggestions on how a blind person can get their stats if a sighted
> person is not available?
>
> Sincerely,
> Anita
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