[Electronics-talk] Accessible Electric Ranges

Sun Jan 27 00:31:22 UTC 2013

A few years ago, there was a bill of rights for technology which covered 
making universal design the law when making new appliences. Unfortunently, 
that did not pass. I hope that they get another vertion of the bill on the 
table so that it can eventually become the law! Either that, make another 
ammendmenth to the ADA that deals with electronical appliences of all sizes.
Kendra
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Matthew Chao" <mattchao at verizon.net>
To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances" 
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Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 11:26 AM
Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Accessible Electric Ranges


> Biggest problem is getting the lables to line up with the controls.  Best 
> thing is to make a Dymo tape strip with multiple labels on it, properly 
> spaced.  Otherwise, making smaller lables for each control means they will 
> lose adhesion and fall off.  I have a 25-year-old microwave that's labled 
> this way; did it myself, but took quite a while, and lots of wasted Dymo 
> tape until I got it right.--Matthew Chao
>
> P.S.  Any way we can legislate appliance accessibility?
>
> At 12:55 PM 1/26/2013, you wrote:
>>Hello Matt and everyone,
>>
>>         I agree. When we got our first microwave with a digital screen 
>> and
>>no dials, my parents were visiting so they helped me label it. When we 
>>moved
>>into this townhome, our oven with built-in microwave oven did not have
>>buttons, either. A daughter of one of the Lions Club members helped me 
>>label
>>the oven, among other things. We have a small microwave at the present 
>>time
>>that has no dials, and I plan to get someone to label it as soon as
>>possible. There is no way of avoiding putting on Braille labels these 
>>days.
>>Get used to it!
>>Mary Donahue
>>
>>"Be well, do good work, and keep in touch."
>>Garrison Keillor
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Electronics-talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>Behalf Of Peter Donahue
>>Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 11:23 AM
>>To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
>>Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Accessible Electric Ranges
>>
>>Hello Matt and everyone,
>>
>>     I'm going to ask Mary to come in on this discussion. Since she's on 
>> this
>>list she'll see this thread. We removed the trial and error aspect by 
>>having
>>a sighted person help us label the appliances. One problem solved. We try 
>>to
>>get our hands on appliances with traditional controls but realize that 
>>until
>>manufactures are required to make all appliances accessible and usable by
>>the blind labeling them with assistance is the best way to go.
>>
>>     I seriously doubt that simply affixing a Braille label to a control 
>> area
>>on an appliance will void any warranty. It's not like you're trying to
>>dissect the thing. It's when you attempt to repair them yourself that you
>>run the risk of voiding a warranty. And if it happened report it to the
>>NFB's legal staff as such behavior by an appliance manufacturer would give
>>us additional ammunission to insist on the adoption of legislation to 
>>insure
>>that home appliances and electronics are 100% accessible too and usable by
>>the blind.
>>
>>Peter Donahue
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Matthew Chao" <mattchao at verizon.net>
>>To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
>><electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 10:00 AM
>>Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Accessible Electric Ranges
>>
>>
>>Yes, that's the problem - lots of time/trial and error in
>>labeling.  And sometimes, marking up a new item may void the
>>warranty.  Ideas, anyone?  Have been researching this for over a week
>>now with few decent results.--Matthew Chao
>>
>>At 10:37 AM 1/26/2013, you wrote:
>> >Good morning Matt and everyone,
>> >
>> >     Marking up the controls with lock dots and/or Braille labels will 
>> > most
>> >likely be your only solution. We had the same issue with our microwave 
>> >and
>> >range ovens. Placing Braille labels over the areas where the controls 
>> >are
>> >was the only way we could make them usable by a blind person. We 
>> >recently
>> >had a new microwave given to us and need to have it labeled. Here's 
>> >hoping
>> >you can find a range that will work for you and require minimal 
>> >labeling.
>> >
>> >Peter Donahue
>> >
>> >----- Original Message -----
>> >From: "Matthew Chao" <mattchao at verizon.net>
>> >To: <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> >Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 7:26 AM
>> >Subject: [Electronics-talk] Accessible Electric Ranges
>> >
>> >
>> >Hi, Folks.  I need to get a new stove for my house.  In looking
>> >around, I've had a tough time finding accessible stoves, primarily
>> >because the oven displays are of clear plastic with no textured
>> >labels or bubble-like membrane buttons.  Controls need to be in the
>> >front.  Read articles about accessible appliances at the AFB Web
>> >site, but still no luck.  Any ideas?  I'm not eager to mark up
>> >displays with those plastic dots or have to take a long time to do up
>> >Dymo tape labels.  Any help would be appreciated in finding an
>> >accessible stove.  Thanks in advance.--Matthew Chao
>> >
>> >.
>> >
>> >
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