[Electronics-talk] Accessible Electric Ranges

[Peter Donahue]

Hello Matt and everyone,

    The NFB is working on it. Perhaps you should get involved and help out.

Peter Donahue


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Matthew Chao" <mattchao at verizon.net>
To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances" 
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Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 1:26 PM
Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Accessible Electric Ranges


Biggest problem is getting the lables to line up with the
controls.  Best thing is to make a Dymo tape strip with multiple
labels on it, properly spaced.  Otherwise, making smaller lables for
each control means they will lose adhesion and fall off.  I have a
25-year-old microwave that's labled this way; did it myself, but took
quite a while, and lots of wasted Dymo tape until I got it right.--Matthew 
Chao

P.S.  Any way we can legislate appliance accessibility?

At 12:55 PM 1/26/2013, you wrote:
>Hello Matt and everyone,
>
>         I agree. When we got our first microwave with a digital screen and
>no dials, my parents were visiting so they helped me label it. When we 
>moved
>into this townhome, our oven with built-in microwave oven did not have
>buttons, either. A daughter of one of the Lions Club members helped me 
>label
>the oven, among other things. We have a small microwave at the present time
>that has no dials, and I plan to get someone to label it as soon as
>possible. There is no way of avoiding putting on Braille labels these days.
>Get used to it!
>Mary Donahue
>
>"Be well, do good work, and keep in touch."
>Garrison Keillor
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Electronics-talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>Behalf Of Peter Donahue
>Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 11:23 AM
>To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
>Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Accessible Electric Ranges
>
>Hello Matt and everyone,
>
>     I'm going to ask Mary to come in on this discussion. Since she's on 
> this
>list she'll see this thread. We removed the trial and error aspect by 
>having
>a sighted person help us label the appliances. One problem solved. We try 
>to
>get our hands on appliances with traditional controls but realize that 
>until
>manufactures are required to make all appliances accessible and usable by
>the blind labeling them with assistance is the best way to go.
>
>     I seriously doubt that simply affixing a Braille label to a control 
> area
>on an appliance will void any warranty. It's not like you're trying to
>dissect the thing. It's when you attempt to repair them yourself that you
>run the risk of voiding a warranty. And if it happened report it to the
>NFB's legal staff as such behavior by an appliance manufacturer would give
>us additional ammunission to insist on the adoption of legislation to 
>insure
>that home appliances and electronics are 100% accessible too and usable by
>the blind.
>
>Peter Donahue
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Matthew Chao" <mattchao at verizon.net>
>To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
><electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 10:00 AM
>Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Accessible Electric Ranges
>
>
>Yes, that's the problem - lots of time/trial and error in
>labeling.  And sometimes, marking up a new item may void the
>warranty.  Ideas, anyone?  Have been researching this for over a week
>now with few decent results.--Matthew Chao
>
>At 10:37 AM 1/26/2013, you wrote:
> >Good morning Matt and everyone,
> >
> >     Marking up the controls with lock dots and/or Braille labels will 
> > most
> >likely be your only solution. We had the same issue with our microwave 
> >and
> >range ovens. Placing Braille labels over the areas where the controls are
> >was the only way we could make them usable by a blind person. We recently
> >had a new microwave given to us and need to have it labeled. Here's 
> >hoping
> >you can find a range that will work for you and require minimal labeling.
> >
> >Peter Donahue
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Matthew Chao" <mattchao at verizon.net>
> >To: <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> >Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2013 7:26 AM
> >Subject: [Electronics-talk] Accessible Electric Ranges
> >
> >
> >Hi, Folks.  I need to get a new stove for my house.  In looking
> >around, I've had a tough time finding accessible stoves, primarily
> >because the oven displays are of clear plastic with no textured
> >labels or bubble-like membrane buttons.  Controls need to be in the
> >front.  Read articles about accessible appliances at the AFB Web
> >site, but still no luck.  Any ideas?  I'm not eager to mark up
> >displays with those plastic dots or have to take a long time to do up
> >Dymo tape labels.  Any help would be appreciated in finding an
> >accessible stove.  Thanks in advance.--Matthew Chao
> >
> >.
> >
> >
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