[Electronics-talk] MAC vs PC

Sun Aug 17 19:41:28 UTC 2014

Well I found out today that it is possible to navigate by a certain 
element first by pressing the key corresponding to that element then use 
up or down to navigate. This is because the web rotor is set to that 
element once its key is pressed. Unfortunately this is not the default 
behaviour as first QuickNav needs to be activated with left-right, easy 
enough, but then you got to configure VoiceOver so that quick navigation 
keys are enabled. However there is an alternative which doesn't require 
such configuration. Control-option-u brings up the web item rotor. Press 
left or right to cycle through the elements, press up or down to see the 
items pertaining to that element. This is similar to the links or 
elements list found in Windows screen readers.

Christopher Hallsworth
Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
www.hadley.edu

On 17/08/2014 18:23, Gerald Levy via Electronics-talk wrote:
>
> As far as browsing the web using a Mac, the following article explains 
> why Apple still needs to make improvements to make the browsing 
> experience easier and more intuitive:
>
> http://chrishofstader.com/apple-and-the-accessible-internet/
>
>
> Gerald
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "cullen via Electronics-talk" 
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> To: "Allison Depner" <alley.cat.77 at gmail.com>; "Discussion of 
> accessible electronics and appliances" <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2014 11:06 AM
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] MAC vs PC
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>> Hi, i have been a mac user since june 2010 and love it. Browsing the 
>> web is very easy. Yes, the way you do things on a mac is a bit 
>> different but it really does not take that much time to get use to 
>> it. If you need to run windows software on your mac, there are two 
>> options. You can make a VM of windows or apple provides a utility 
>> called bootcamp. i think the VM method is the easyist. Hope this info 
>> helps
>> Cullen
>> On Aug 17, 2014, at 10:55 AM, Allison Depner via Electronics-talk 
>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>>> I would absolutely suggest having the Windows Classic Shell 
>>> installed. If
>>> your're anything like me the touch screen that Windows 8 comes with 
>>> will
>>> really throw you for a loop.  I empethise  with anyone who wants to 
>>> keep
>>> windows XP.  Unfortunately, the Microsoft Giants made sure that we 
>>> don't
>>> have a choice about "upgrading" to Windows 8.  Hang in there.
>>>
>>> Alley
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Electronics-talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Tracy Carcione via Electronics-talk
>>> Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2014 7:40 AM
>>> To: David Andrews; Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] MAC vs PC
>>>
>>> People tell me there is a program one can install that will make a 
>>> Windows 7
>>> or 8 machine look like good old Windows XP.  I believe it's called
>>> ClassicShell.
>>> Tracy
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "David Andrews via Electronics-talk" 
>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> To: "Star Song" <starsong at gmx.com>; "Discussion of accessible 
>>> electronics
>>> and appliances" <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2014 10:22 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] MAC vs PC
>>>
>>>
>>>> Well, a couple things here.  First, what is your reason for wanting 
>>>> a Mac?
>>>
>>>> It seems to me that with your level of use, and skill level, a change
>>>> of this magnitude doesn't make a lot of sense.  Unless you like
>>>> learning new technology, then why do it.  If your existing technology
>>>> does the job you should stick with it.
>>>>
>>>> Although in this case that may be a problem too.  You can't buy a new
>>>> computer with Windows XP on it.  XP is quite old, and no longer
>>>> supported by Microsoft.  They are no longer doing security updates, so
>>>> if you plan on  using it on the internet, this is not a good idea!
>>>>
>>>> You are going to have to bite the bullet and learn something new, so
>>>> go for it!
>>>>
>>>> Dave
>>>>
>>>> At 08:44 AM 8/17/2014, you wrote:
>>>>> Hello all, I need to get a new laptop, and am wondering if I should
>>>>> get a MAC. I have only had an  Asus PC, and use it only for its
>>>>> internet and DVD/CD capabilities. I am a mediocre skills user, 
>>>>> able to
>>>>> do mostly what I need, but don't know much more than that about 
>>>>> how to
>>>>> figure out more complexx  operations. I don't have anyone who can 
>>>>> help
>>>>> me with my computer unless I take it to a store. But I thought maybe
>>>>> from what everyone has said on this list A MAC would be better, since
>>>>> I still have Windows XP and don't feel comfortable graduating to 
>>>>> Windows
>>> 8. Can you advise me?
>>>>> Thanks,   Shonen
>>>>
>>>>        David Andrews and long white cane Harry.
>>>> E-Mail:  dandrews at visi.com or david.andrews at nfbnet.org
>>>>
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