[Electronics-talk] Best cel phone [was "Re: Net flix"]

Fri Dec 5 16:07:25 UTC 2014

Go to the National Braille Press website, www.nbp.org, and buy "Getting
Started with the iPhone" and several other books of that ilk. I know this
means actually *reading* something but you won't regret it.

And before you throw the phone in the garbage, remember that sighted folks
had troubles with touch-screen devices just as newbie blind folks do -- just
two or three years earlier.

Mike Freeman

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From: Electronics-talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Shara Winton via Electronics-talk
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2014 9:15 PM
To: 'Christopher Chaltain'; 'Discussion of accessible electronics and
appliances'
Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Best cel phone [was "Re: Net flix"]

Thank you. I need some iphone classes or something and then I am sure it
will be great. Again, thanks for the info

-----Original Message-----
From: Electronics-talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
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Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2014 10:50 PM
To: 'Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances'
Subject: [Electronics-talk] Best cel phone [was "Re: Net flix"]

This is just my opinion, but I still think the best cell phone for a blind
person is an iPhone. I have an iPhone and an Nexis 7 Android tablet, and
although I think the Nexis 7 is a great device, I don't see myself leaving
the iPhone behind. Some of the more advanced features, like cutting and
pasting text, are a bit easier on the iPhone. There are also some apps that
are only available on the iPhone right now, such as the KNFB Reader and the
BARD Mobile app.

Android Lolly pop is supposed to improve some accessibility issues in
Android, but I haven't been able to move up to that version of Android yet.
IOS 8 on the iPhone still has some annoying issues in general and with
accessibility in particular. Furthermore, manufacturers like Samsung have
improved the accessibility of their devices above and beyond what you get in
stock Android. The Samsung Galaxy S5 is probably your most accessible
Android phone and it has some features comparable to the iPhone, such as
triple clicking the home button to load and unload Talk Back. Between the
improvements in Android and on Samsung devices and the ongoing bugs in IOS
8, I think the gap between the iPhone and the Samsung Galaxy S5 with Android
Lolly pop could be quite small.

There are also reasons unrelated to accessibility why you might like one
device over the other. You don't have the fragmentation with Apple devices
that yu do with Android phones. When Apple updates IOS everyone gets it and
you don't have to worry about when your manufacture might port the new
version of Android to your handset. Apple also has fewer problems with
malware and a better more consistent user experience.

Android gives you more foot print options, larger screens for example. 
It's also more customizable. You can replace your speech synthesizer,
keyboard, launcher, web browser and so on. You can get low end Android
phones if you're on a budget. You don't need to use iTunes to transfer
material to your smart phone.

There are more differences than this but hopefully this gives you an idea on
the difference between the two phones.

On 12/04/2014 09:30 PM, Shara Winton wrote:
> What do you believe is the best cell phone? I just got an iphone for 
> the first time. I am having a very difficult time.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Electronics-talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain via Electronics-talk
> Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2014 10:22 PM
> To: 'Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances'
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Net flix
>
> No, this is not new. I had this same problem in IOS 7 and maybe even 
> IOS
6.
> It does behave a lot like the focus issue in IOS 8. I've heard this is 
> in the Netflix app and that Netflix hasn't been very responsive to 
> improving accessibility. Note, I've only heard this second hand.
>
> On 12/04/2014 09:12 PM, Mike Freeman wrote:
>> Did you have the scrolling problem under iOS 7.1.2 or is this yet 
>> another manifestation of the scrolling problem manifest in iOS 8.x.x?
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Electronics-talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>> On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain via Electronics-talk
>> Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2014 5:12 PM
>> To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Net flix
>>
>> This isn't my experience at all on the iPhone. I have to scroll the 
>> screen around and make sure an object is on the visible screen before 
>> I can select it by double tapping. I have to use quite a few work 
>> arounds to get passed this limitation, and it makes working with the 
>> Netflix app very tedious in my opinion. Sure, I can eventually get it 
>> to do most of what I want it to do, but I would never call it very
> accessible.
>>
>> Interestingly enough, you don't have this issue with the Netflix app 
>> on Android, and on that platform, I would call the Netflix app very
> accessible.
>>
>> On 12/04/2014 03:40 PM, Poppa Bear via Electronics-talk wrote:
>>> Same here
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Electronics-talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>> On Behalf Of David Hertweck via Electronics-talk
>>> Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2014 12:30 PM
>>> To: Tracy Carcione; Discussion of accessible electronics and 
>>> appliances
>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Net flix
>>>
>>> I have found that the Netflix app for the iPhone is very accessible
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Dec 4, 2014, at 9:16 AM, Tracy Carcione via Electronics-talk
>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I guess it depends by what you mean by "works".  I was able to find 
>>>> and
>>> select things to watch or order, but, once the video started, I was 
>>> not
>> able
>>> to do anything except close it.  I could not pause, rewind, or
>> fast-forward.
>>> If I did have to close something in the middle, it would restart 
>>> from that point, which was something.
>>>> Tracy
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shara Winton via Electronics-talk"
>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> To: <Electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2014 1:05 AM
>>>> Subject: [Electronics-talk] Net flix
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Everyone, Has Netflix worked for you and will I as a JAWS user 
>>>>> be
>> able
>>> to
>>>>> use it easily? Thanks for the info
>>>>>
>>>>>
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