[Electronics-talk] Trying to Understand Data Plans

Wed Sep 17 09:48:12 UTC 2014

Nope, the hardest part, is if you need to type in a code some devices 
require this the first time such as the BrailleNote). The reason this can be 
hard, and primarily it is a VO issue, is that you have to enter the code 
quickly, usually using the numeric keypad that pops up on the device. VO 
makes it harder to enter the info as quickly as needed, though it can be 
done but you just may have to take a couple of practice runs to do it 
quickly enough. If you have someone sighted who can enter the code, you can 
turn VO off, have them enter it, and then you are ready to go. Besides this 
issue, just like pairing anything else, as long as you have Bluetooth turned 
on, once the initial pairing has been done to set up the code if needed, the 
device will quickly recognize it and you can do whatever you need without 
doing anything to the phone once the initial pairing (as mentioned earlier) 
is completed.
HTH,
Chris
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Danielle Antoine via Electronics-talk" <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
To: "Christopher Chaltain" <chaltain at gmail.com>; "Discussion of accessible 
electronics and appliances" <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 5:01 AM
Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Trying to Understand Data Plans


> So is it difficult to pair devices with an iPhone? How is this done?
>
>
> On 9/16/14, Christopher Chaltain via Electronics-talk
> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> There's really no reason a smart phone couldn't replace a PC. It has
>> more than enough computing power. The glitch is that IOS and Android
>> have interfaces geared to the touch screen, which isn't resolved just by
>> attaching a bluetooth keyboard. Hopefully when operating systems like
>> Windows and Ubuntu are accessible and span both mobile and desktop
>> devices then we'll have mobile devices that are just as efficient as
>> desktop devices when you attach a bluetooth keyboard to them. The other
>> limiting factor is storage, but if you're already depending on the cloud
>> or network storage then this isn't an issue.
>>
>> On 09/16/2014 06:43 PM, Gail the U. S. Male via Electronics-talk wrote:
>>> you can use a bluetooth keyboard. I used one, until it died, and could
>>> do e-mail, text messaging, that sort of thing. no, it wasn't like
>>> opening up microsoft word, or pages on the mac, and writing several
>>> ppages.  I still use two laptop computers, plus an iPhone 5.
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Danielle Antoine via
>>> Electronics-talk" <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> To: "Jim Barbour" <jbar at barcore.com>; "Discussion of accessible
>>> electronics and appliances" <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 1:54 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Trying to Understand Data Plans
>>>
>>>
>>>> gail,
>>>>
>>>> No need for Christine to email or PM you with further questions
>>>> because this information may be useful and helpful to and by others as
>>>> well especially who may not have though to ask. Regarding that data,
>>>> this sounds limiting. I say this because many have replaced their
>>>> computer with the I{Phone and I don't see how this would works for
>>>> word processing and emailing like with one finger. What about
>>>> streaming movies  or TV shows and podcasts. People I know in into
>>>> Netflix andthings like that. Seems like I would need to purchase more
>>>> data  and a couple other devices? I'm not against the iPhone but I
>>>> want to make sure it's the worth the splaurge. And do most of these
>>>> apps at cost like the GPS, OCR scanner (socan you scan books and
>>>> mail?) bar code scanner? I agree it's worth having all things in one
>>>> device but.....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Drew, thanks for explaining about downloeading stuff then watching it
>>>> later without Wi-Fi makes sense. How do you know  if your at a hot
>>>> spot as opposed to not?
>>>>
>>>> A lot of people use them o I'd probably have not problem leariing
>>>> about the different finger movements and my DD and DS have IPod and
>>>> iiPad. It's just been a little intimidating not haveng physical
>>>> buttons to press and know that what you sked for is what you're
>>>> getting! Which phones are on offer for feee or little cost? Thanks
>>>> all.
>>>> On 9/16/14, Jim Barbour via Electronics-talk
>>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>> The iPhone 6 is larger than the iPhone 5s, and the iphone 6 plus is
>>>>> larger than the iPhone 6.
>>>>>
>>>>> The given sizes are 4 inches for the iphone 5s, 4.7 inches for the
>>>>> iphone 6 and 5.5 inches for the 6 plus.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hope that helps,
>>>>>
>>>>> Jim
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 05:44:36PM -0500, Steve Jacobson via
>>>>> Electronics-talk wrote:
>>>>>> My understanding is that there is two different sizes of the iPhone
>>>>>> 6. It
>>>>>> would be worth being certain of the differences between the 5S and 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> smaller iPhone 6.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Steve Jacobson
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, 13 Sep 2014 18:16:28 -0400, Christine Szostak via
>>>>>> Electronics-talk
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >Sadly, as someone who has fought doing this for years:), I think I 
>>>>>> >am
>>>>>> >finally becoming convinced that this is a good move for me (Apple
>>>>>> would
>>>>>> > be
>>>>>> >so proud:))! At the end of this month I will be eligible for an 
>>>>>> >early
>>>>>> >upgrade and think I may get an iPhone 5S as I really do not want the
>>>>>> > 6
>>>>>> >because of no desire for the bigger screen:)!
>>>>>> >----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> >From: "Drew Hunthausen" <dhunthausen at gmail.com>
>>>>>> >To: "'Christine Szostak'" <szostak.1 at buckeyemail.osu.edu>;
>>>>>> "'Discussion
>>>>>> > of
>>>>>> >accessible electronics and appliances'" 
>>>>>> ><electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> >Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2014 6:09 PM
>>>>>> >Subject: RE: [Electronics-talk] Trying to Understand Data Plans
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >> Chris,
>>>>>> >> The iphone is very easy to answer and end calls. To answer a call
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> >> just
>>>>>> >> double tap on the screen with two fingures. You do the same thing
>>>>>> >> to
>>>>>> >> end
>>>>>> >> the
>>>>>> >> call. If you get a call and want to send it strait to voice mail
>>>>>> >> without
>>>>>> >> answering you hit the button on the top of the phone. Very easy 
>>>>>> >> and
>>>>>> >> strait
>>>>>> >> forward.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Drew Hunthause 714-296-7111
>>>>>> >> www.noexcusesblindguy.com-296-7111
>>>>>> >> www.noexcusesblind
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> >> From: Electronics-talk
>>>>>> [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] >> On
>>>>>> >> Behalf Of Christine Szostak via Electronics-talk
>>>>>> >> Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2014 3:07 PM
>>>>>> >> To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
>>>>>> >> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Trying to Understand Data Plans
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Thanks to all for the very helpful info, this is much more >>
>>>>>> encouraging
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> than
>>>>>> >> I initially expected as I originally assumed that data would be
>>>>>> >> used
>>>>>> >> up
>>>>>> >> while on wifi unless you explicitly told the phone not to do so:).
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>  Ok, so one more iPhone use question. How easy is it to answer
>>>>>> and >> end
>>>>>> >> calls? Several years ago, I tried an iPhone 4GS and hated it
>>>>>> because >> I
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> could
>>>>>> >> never find the answer and end buttons since I did not yet know
>>>>>> >> about
>>>>>> >> flicking and knew too little about VO to be at all productive:).
>>>>>> >> Can
>>>>>> >> you
>>>>>> >> use
>>>>>> >> the home button to answer and end or are the buttons to do so
>>>>>> easy to
>>>>>> >> locate?
>>>>>> >> Happy weekend all!
>>>>>> >> Chris
>>>>>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> >> From: "Drew Hunthausen via Electronics-talk"
>>>>>> >> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> >> To: "'Linda'" <waterinmyroom at gmail.com>; "'Discussion of 
>>>>>> >> accessible
>>>>>> >> electronics and appliances'" <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> >> Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2014 5:46 PM
>>>>>> >> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Trying to Understand Data Plans
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>> In terms of streaming movies, tv shows, and a lot of audio, it
>>>>>> would
>>>>>> >>> probably be best to do these kind of things with wi fi if
>>>>>> >>> possible.
>>>>>> >>> Another
>>>>>> >>> suggestion is if you have tv shows or movies you really like and
>>>>>> >>> want
>>>>>> >>> to watch no matter where you are is to find them when you are on
>>>>>> a >>> wi
>>>>>> >>> fi net work and download them to your phone. This way you can
>>>>>> listen
>>>>>> >>> or watch them without using any data as it can add up quickly 
>>>>>> >>> with
>>>>>> >>> videos.
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> Drew Hunthause 714-296-7111
>>>>>> >>> www.noexcusesblindguy.com-296-7111
>>>>>> >>> www.noexcusesblind
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> >>> From: Electronics-talk
>>>>>> >>> [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>>> >>> On
>>>>>> >>> Behalf Of Linda via Electronics-talk
>>>>>> >>> Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2014 2:36 PM
>>>>>> >>> To: Gail the U. S. Male; Discussion of accessible electronics and
>>>>>> >>> appliances
>>>>>> >>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Trying to Understand Data Plans
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> So, if I'm going to watch movies, TV shows, listen to podcasts,
>>>>>> then
>>>>>> >>> sounds like I will need more than 2 GB of data, right?  I'm
>>>>>> ordering
>>>>>> >>> a
>>>>>> >>> new phone, and I'm thinking I had better get more gigs. Good
>>>>>> >>> questions, Christine.  I always had a flip phone and loved it.  I
>>>>>> >>> didn't have to think about data or gigs or contracts.
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>> On Sep 13, 2014, at 9:24 AM, "Gail the U. S. Male via
>>>>>> >>>> Electronics-talk"
>>>>>> >>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> Hi, my answers follow each of your questions, to make it
>>>>>> simpler. >>>> If
>>>>>> >>>> you
>>>>>> >>> have any other questions, you can e-mail me, or send me a private
>>>>>> >>> message off the list, and I will give you my phone number, so I
>>>>>> >>> can
>>>>>> >>> explain things better.
>>>>>> >>>> my e-mail is
>>>>>> >>>> gailcrowe1959 at gmail.com
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christine Szostak via
>>>>>> >>> Electronics-talk" <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> >>>> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
>>>>>> >>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> >>>> Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2014 7:44 AM
>>>>>> >>>> Subject: [Electronics-talk] Trying to Understand Data Plans
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>> >>>>> Since we are on the topic of data plans and how they can be
>>>>>> >>>>> used,
>>>>>> >>>>> as
>>>>>> >>>>> a
>>>>>> >>> current non-smart phone user, who is finally confident enough 
>>>>>> >>> with
>>>>>> >>> the
>>>>>> >>> iPod that I am considering an iPhone for my next phone, I have
>>>>>> >>> been
>>>>>> >>> trying to understand exactly what "data" is. Thus, I was
>>>>>> wondering >>> if
>>>>>> >>> anyone can help explain the following. Sorry for what will likely
>>>>>> >>> sound like very silly and obvious questions:
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>> 1)  What exactly is data?  Data is things like e-mail,
>>>>>> >>>>> streaming,
>>>>>> >>> internet browsing, things like that.
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>> 2(  If your data plan has say 2 gigs of data, what exactly does
>>>>>> >>>>> that
>>>>>> >>> mean. In other words, how much of your data is used up each
>>>>>> minute >>> or
>>>>>> >>> if easier to explain, each hour...?  Data is charged for for a 
>>>>>> >>> one
>>>>>> >>> month period, if you have two GB of data, this lasts you for an
>>>>>> >>> entire
>>>>>> >>> monthly cycle.  If you go over the two GB, you get charged a
>>>>>> >>> pretty
>>>>>> >>> high fee for another 500 Mb or 1 GB of aditional data usage.
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>> 3)  Does your data continue to be used if you come in contact
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> >>>>> a
>>>>>> >>>>> wifi
>>>>>> >>> connection that you are permitted to use (e.g., your own home's
>>>>>> wifi
>>>>>> >>> or say an internet cafe where you can connect)? If not, does it
>>>>>> >>> automatically stop using up data when it comes in contact with a
>>>>>> >>> wifi
>>>>>> >>> hotspot or do you have to turn the data off?  If you come in
>>>>>> contact
>>>>>> >>> with a WIFI network, your data automatically is no longer used,
>>>>>> >>> since
>>>>>> >>> you are no longer using your cellular network, but have
>>>>>> connected to
>>>>>> >>> WIFI.
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>> 4)  Are there limitations to what you can access with data
>>>>>> >>>>> (e.g.,
>>>>>> >>> streaming, downloading, YouTube, basic internet searching...)? 
>>>>>> >>> No,
>>>>>> >>> you
>>>>>> >>> can do anything you could do with a DSL or cable connection.
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>> 5)  Somewhat related to 4 are there certain things that take up
>>>>>> >>>>> more
>>>>>> >>>>> or
>>>>>> >>> less data (e.g., GPS, YouTube, streaming, basic internet
>>>>>> >>> searches...)?
>>>>>> >>> Yes,
>>>>>> >>> anything that is video takes more bandwidth than basic internet
>>>>>> >>> searching.
>>>>>> >>> just audio streaming uses more than internet searching, but less
>>>>>> >>> than
>>>>>> >>> video.
>>>>>> >>> For example, if I'm using my 2 GB of data, I can listen to all 
>>>>>> >>> the
>>>>>> >>> baseball games in that month, and not go over.
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>> Any other information that you can give me would also be really
>>>>>> >>> appreciated:)!
>>>>>> >>>>> Hope you all have a wonderful and relaxing weekend!
>>>>>> >>>>> Chris
>>>>>> >>>>> Christine M. Szostak, PhD
>>>>>> >>>>> Assistant Professor
>>>>>> >>>>> Department of Psychology
>>>>>> >>>>> Shorter University
>>>>>> >>>>> Rome, Georgia
>>>>>> >>>>> szostak.1 at osu.edu
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>> If you are interested in a professional consultation for a
>>>>>> >>>>> vision
>>>>>> >>>>> loss
>>>>>> >>> related issue see:
>>>>>> >>>>> http://findingthevision.wikidot.com
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>> If you are in need of a professional consultation for general
>>>>>> >>> research/statistical related issues see:
>>>>>> >>>>> http://researchconsulting.wikidot.com
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>> If you are looking for professional proof reading or editorial
>>>>>> >>>>> review
>>>>>> >>> services see:
>>>>>> >>>>> http://researchconsulting.wikidot.com
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