[Electronics-talk] Linux and smart watch

Fri Aug 7 17:28:31 UTC 2015

Hi again,

Regarding the Linux/orca discussion I was just responding to someone's elses question about screen reading programs being used with Linux.

Regarding the smart watch. Being that I am blind I couldn't see the image of the smart watch so even if it was "clear" in the picture I wouldn't have been able to determine that in a picture. and I did go to the link and read the article. "around 300$" and "sometime later this year" are not very specific answers and this doesn't address my other questions.

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>    1. Linux and smart watch (Ben Fulton)
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> Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2015 06:17:57 -0600
> From: Ben Fulton <bluezinfandel at hotmail.com>
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> Subject: [Electronics-talk] Linux and smart watch
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> Hi,
>  
> I hope nobody is annoyed with me covering multiple topics in one email...
>  
> Coming at the Linux question from the angle of a Linux user. Have you checked Orca. - It's a Linux based screen reading program.
>  
> Secondly,
> There didn't seem to be much information on the smart watch. Like, how many cells does it actually have. - With a 10hr battery life. how does one recharge it.  Personally, I want a watch to last for 24hrs or more.  Can it be recharged on the move i.e. does it come with a portable charger.  Also, when will it be available? and What is the exact price? I followed the link provided but couldn't find quick answers to these questions, and I have little patience for wading through web pages looking for information buried within links.
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> Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2015 07:49:04 -0700
> From: Jim Barbour <jbar at barcore.com>
> To: Ben Fulton via Electronics-talk <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Linux and smart watch
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> Hey Everyone,
> 
> Ben, The picture of the watch clearly shows 4 cells, but the rest of your questions are interesting.
> 
> The Linux conversation will likly get more traction on the nfbcs list. Several of us on that list make our living on Linux.
> 
> I haven't used Orca in several years, but it certainly wasn't a very good linux screen reader then.
> 
> Generally, I recommend some type of terminal based option for using Linux, either an ssh client from windows, or a Linux based terminal screen reader such as yasr (yet another screen reader)
> 
> Jim
> 
> On Tue, Aug 04, 2015 at 06:17:57AM -0600, Ben Fulton via Electronics-talk wrote:
> > Hi,
> >  
> > I hope nobody is annoyed with me covering multiple topics in one email...
> >  
> > Coming at the Linux question from the angle of a Linux user. Have you checked Orca. - It's a Linux based screen reading program.
> >  
> > Secondly,
> > There didn't seem to be much information on the smart watch. Like, how many cells does it actually have. - With a 10hr battery life. how does one recharge it.  Personally, I want a watch to last for 24hrs or more.  Can it be recharged on the move i.e. does it come with a portable charger.  Also, when will it be available? and What is the exact price? I followed the link provided but couldn't find quick answers to these questions, and I have little patience for wading through web pages looking for information buried within links.
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> Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2015 20:42:34 -0500
> From: Christopher Chaltain <chaltain at gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Linux and smart watch
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> I'm not sure what the original question was, since it doesn't seem to be 
> included in the thread below, but I wouldn't agree that Orca isn't a 
> very good Linux screen reader. I was using it as my main screen reader 
> on my job in a Linux shop as long ago as 2011. Before and since, it's 
> been basically the only screen reader I've used at home. I do supplement 
> it with Speakup, Emacspeak and ChromeVox, but this isn't because it 
> isn't a good screen reader, but rather, I'm just using the right tool 
> for the job. I do use Windows once in a blue moon at home, but this is 
> just to use iTunes with my iPhone.
> 
> One thing you get with Orca that I don't see with any other screen 
> reader is such close communication with the Orca developers, and almost 
> immediate responses to bug reports. There are also issues with the 
> applications and access technology layers in Linux, which aren't the 
> fault of Orca.
> 
> This doesn't seem to be on topic for this list to me, so that may be 
> another reason to take Jim's advice and take this to NFBCS or another list.
> 
> On 08/04/2015 09:49 AM, Jim Barbour via Electronics-talk wrote:
> > Hey Everyone,
> >
> > Ben, The picture of the watch clearly shows 4 cells, but the rest of your questions are interesting.
> >
> > The Linux conversation will likly get more traction on the nfbcs list. Several of us on that list make our living on Linux.
> >
> > I haven't used Orca in several years, but it certainly wasn't a very good linux screen reader then.
> >
> > Generally, I recommend some type of terminal based option for using Linux, either an ssh client from windows, or a Linux based terminal screen reader such as yasr (yet another screen reader)
> >
> > Jim
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 04, 2015 at 06:17:57AM -0600, Ben Fulton via Electronics-talk wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I hope nobody is annoyed with me covering multiple topics in one email...
> >>
> >> Coming at the Linux question from the angle of a Linux user. Have you checked Orca. - It's a Linux based screen reading program.
> >>
> >> Secondly,
> >> There didn't seem to be much information on the smart watch. Like, how many cells does it actually have. - With a 10hr battery life. how does one recharge it.  Personally, I want a watch to last for 24hrs or more.  Can it be recharged on the move i.e. does it come with a portable charger.  Also, when will it be available? and What is the exact price? I followed the link provided but couldn't find quick answers to these questions, and I have little patience for wading through web pages looking for information buried within links.
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> Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2015 21:13:58 -0500
> From: Christopher Chaltain <chaltain at gmail.com>
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> I'm not sure where you're seeing this information on the braille smart 
> watch, but at the link I saw it says it'll cost around $300 and they'll 
> be taking orders later this year. This was in the first paragraph of the 
> article at 
> http://www.engadget.com/2015/08/03/dot-braille-smartwatch//?utm_medium=feed&utm_source=Feed_Classic&utm_campaign=Engadget&ncid=rss_semi
> 
> It seems a bit odd to me that someone would be interested enough in a 
> topic like this to send a message to the list and ask others to read a 
> web page for them but aren't interested enough to read the web page 
> themselves or follow a link.
> 
> By my reading of the list information, this seems off topic for this 
> list, so there may be more traction on a topic like this elsewhere, but 
> I'm not the list moderator, and I don't care myself if people want to 
> discuss this on this list.
> 
> 
> 
> On 08/04/2015 07:17 AM, Ben Fulton via Electronics-talk wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I hope nobody is annoyed with me covering multiple topics in one email...
> >
> > Coming at the Linux question from the angle of a Linux user. Have you checked Orca. - It's a Linux based screen reading program.
> >
> > Secondly,
> > There didn't seem to be much information on the smart watch. Like, how many cells does it actually have. - With a 10hr battery life. how does one recharge it.  Personally, I want a watch to last for 24hrs or more.  Can it be recharged on the move i.e. does it come with a portable charger.  Also, when will it be available? and What is the exact price? I followed the link provided but couldn't find quick answers to these questions, and I have little patience for wading through web pages looking for information buried within links.
> >
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