[Electronics-talk] Color Identification Technology

Sun Dec 20 05:49:35 UTC 2015

I use sock tuckers for my socks.  I used to use safety pins to keep the 
colors together, but the pins started tearing the socks after a while.  The 
sock tuckers can be bought at Maxiaid.

For my plain white shirts, I cut a slit in the tag for identification. 
Fortunately, all of my white shirts have tags.  I know most shirts don't 
have tags these days.  However, if I do happen to get tagless shirts, I will 
sew a small bump of thread in an in conspicuous place.

Vince

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tracy Carcione via Electronics-talk" <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
To: "'Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances'" 
<electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2015 7:24 AM
Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Color Identification Technology

> Hi Ben.
> That sounds like a good solution, though a safety pin seems simpler to me.
> They're fine in the wash, in my experience. I believe I've seen a kind of
> safety pin meant especially to go through the laundry, too, maybe at
> BlindMiceMart.
> I guess I don't have so many labelled clothes to put in the wash at one 
> time
> that I can't keep track of which goes where.  I look at the label and the
> garment, then toss it in the wash, and put it back with its label when 
> it's
> clean.  The only exception would be plain, colored T-shirts that look the
> same except for the color, but my color detector does OK with plain 
> colors,
> so I could use it to re-identify them.
> Tracy
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Electronics-talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Benjamin Vercellone via Electronics-talk
> Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 10:13 AM
> To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
> Cc: Benjamin Vercellone
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Color Identification Technology
>
> Hello Tracy.
> Thank you for your advice. I especially like the method you described that
> involves Braille, twist ties, etc. My only question was how you keep track
> of your clothing when it is in the washer and dryer? How do you know that
> you're putting each garment back on the correct hanger or pairing it with
> the right label if you don't hang a particular garment? I had one idea 
> after
> I read your message. I was thinking that I could write my own short code 
> at
> the end of the Braille description. The code could be anything I come up
> with. Maybe I would start with K1, for example. I would write this at the
> end of the Braille description. The next garment, according to this 
> system,
> would have K2 at the end. Anyway, I could take a 3 by 5 inch plastic card
> which I got from the NFB Independence Market. I could cut it into strips,
> write the same codes on the strips, punch a whole in one end of each 
> strip,
> and find a way to attach the strips to the garment just for the duration 
> of
> the washer and d  ryer cycles. I was thinking I could use a binding clip 
> or
> something to attach each strip to any point on the garment. This 
> connection
> point would probably be the tag in most cases. I would undo one side of 
> the
> binding clip, put this wire part through the personal Braille tag as well 
> as
> the tag of the garment, reattach the whire part to it's intended position 
> in
> the binding clip, and then throw the garment in the laundry.
> These are my thoughts at this point. Please let me know what you think.
> Ben
>
>
>
>> On Dec 18, 2015, at 7:49 AM, Tracy Carcione via Electronics-talk
> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Ben.
>> I have the Cobol color identifier, and it does OK.  I hear the
>> Colorino does OK, too.  My Cobol works better than the Color ID app on
>> my iPhone, which seems to require optimal light conditions for even
> adequate results.
>> The trouble with any of these solutions, IMO, is that they don't tell
>> me anything about the pattern.  I have several multi-color skirts, and
>> several tops with stripes, checks, or other patterns, and I need to know
> that.
>> Therefore, the best solution for clothes I have figured out is to rope
>> in some sighted person whose color sense I trust, and get her to
>> describe the item in question.  Then I write a braille label on a
>> piece of braille paper (thick plastic would also work), punch a hole
>> in the top of the label, attach a twist-tie, and attach the other end
>> of the twist-tie to the hanger for the piece of clothing.  If it
>> doesn't go on a hanger, I fold the label in with the clothing, or pin
>> it on with a safety pin.  It takes more initial investment than
>> zapping something with a color identifier, but, once it's done, it's done
> for years, and is very accurate.
>> For example, I could write "blue, purple, brown leaf pattern", or
>> "blue and white stripes".
>>
>> It would be possible to do something similar with something like the
>> Pen Friend--create a recorded label with all the info needed and
>> attach it to the clothing.
>> HTH.
>> Tracy
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Electronics-talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Benjamin Vercellone via Electronics-talk
>> Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 6:14 AM
>> To: electronics-talk at nfbnet.org
>> Cc: Benjamin Vercellone
>> Subject: [Electronics-talk] Color Identification Technology
>>
>>> Hello.
>>> I have some questions regarding color identification technology. This
>> could include dedicated devices, smart phone apps, etc.
>>> I would like to know if anyone on this list has used a color
>>> identifier
>> and found it to be consistently helpful. I have used several hardware
>> solutions up to this point, and have encountered considerable difficulty.
>> With each color identification tool I have owned over the years (maybe
>> 2 or 3), I have asked sighted family members or friends to tell me if
>> they agree or disagree with the answer given by the technology. The
>> problem in my experience is that a large percentage of the time, the
>> sighted people disagree with the answer given by the technology. I
>> have had people tell me all kinds of things, like how everyone
>> interprets colors differently. Some people have told me that the human
>> brain doesn't see the actual color anyway. I don't know if this is
>> true, but I honestly don't care very much personally. I simply want to
>> coordinate my clothing largely according to color, and to do this as
>> effectively, independently, and spontaneously as possible. I desire to
>> use technology to this end if possible. I therefore care how people
>> interpret the colors of my clothing. I want to have technology that
>> agrees with the color analysis of sighted people most of the time. If
>> it's not perfect, that's fine. But the technology I have tried has
>> given results different from the human answers a huge percentage of
>> the time. Even if this has been less than half of the time, it still
>> concerns me a lot. Furthermore, most sighted people from whom I gather
>> color information give answers that are mostly the same. Most people
>> say a garment is a certain color, and if there has been an outlier in
>> terms of the answer, it is usually on the part of the technology I have
> tried.
>>> Has anyone else experienced this? Also, if anyone has bought a more
>> expensive color identifier, I am wondering if this has increased
>> accuracy. I am open to suggessions as well as questions.
>>> I have also tried using some apps on my iPhone. I have definitely had
>>> the
>> most success, though still spotty, with Tap Tap See. I am confident
>> that others have tried this kind of approach as well. I like Tap Tap
>> see more than other solutions I have tried thus far for a couple
>> reasons. Most of all, I am pleased that there are humans available on
>> the other end. This allows me to get an answer that I feel I can trust
>> somewhat more. Also, when this method works its best, I am often told
>> the pattern of my garment as well, such as plaid. I am totally blind,
>> by the way. I know that many blind people have used various types of
>> low-tech labeling solutions with clothing, such as metallic braille
>> tags, various shapes, etc. I am open to using these methods as well.
>> However, I want to gather information and perspectives from other blind
> people who have used color identification technology.
>>> To summarize my opinions, I believe that color identification
>>> technology
>> is one of the least reliable technologies I have used for independence
>> up to this point. If others have had much better experiences, I would
>> love to hear more, and be proven wrong. However, I can say for certain
>> that in my experience, I have not had enough success with color
>> identification technology to confidently coordinate my clothing by
>> this means alone. Also, I went completely blind at age 4, and only
>> know about 10 to 15 colors accurately in my head. In other words, I do
>> not desire a color identifier that boasts more than 600 colors or
>> whatever. I am able to understand light, medium, and dark for many
>> colors. Also, if there is a color that I did not have in my vocabulary
>> as a small child, I will need someone to describe it in relation to
>> the basic colors. This helps me a fare amount. Still, I prefer simpler
>> answers over sophisticated ones. Finally, can anyone give advice
>> regarding how to find opti mal lighting for apps like Tap Tap See? Any 
>> and
> all advice is appreciated!
>>> Thank you,
>>> Ben
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