[Electronics-Talk] My Review of the ProxTalker ElectronicsBrailleLabeler

Jude DaShiell jdashiel at panix.com
Thu Dec 31 14:00:37 UTC 2015


If an external keyboard generated computer braille A user could generate 
grade 2 and grade 3 braille but they would have to do translations in 
their head to hit the right keys.  The of dots 12356 would be the left 
parentheses and with 23456 would be the right parentheses.  I'd hate to 
have to do that, but it would be a good mental exercise.

On Thu, 31 Dec 2015, cheez via Electronics-Talk wrote:

> Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2015 06:18:50
> From: cheez via Electronics-Talk <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> To: Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances
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> Cc: cheez <cheez at cox.net>
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] My Review of the ProxTalker
>     ElectronicsBrailleLabeler
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> No contractions can be made using an external keyboard, and I've never heard 
> of any keyboards ever having that capability.
> And yes, translation software would drive the price higher.
> But the majority of those that know braille I've met in the past 10 years or 
> so, only know braille one.  Older minds seem to have less patience when it 
> comes to learning new things.
>
> Vince
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brent Harding via Electronics-Talk" 
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> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] My Review of the ProxTalker 
> ElectronicsBrailleLabeler
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>> Is this the same thing as the Six Dot I heard of on Accessible World? If 
>> so, their presentation suggests that even if you bought the USB keyboard, 
>> you will get grade 1 braille when using that since it sounds like this 
>> thing doesn't have the smarts to do braille translation. As far as speech 
>> recognition goes, I can see why that wouldn't be included. It would take on 
>> the order of a computer processor in power to do that accurately, not to 
>> mention that they would have to license Dragon or some other technology, 
>> which would likely increase the price further. The reason we have speech 
>> recognition in our phones is because Apple and Google have remote servers 
>> at their disposal to do the hard work.
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "cheez via Electronics-Talk" 
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>> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 9:27 PM
>> Subject: [Electronics-Talk] My Review of the ProxTalker Electronics 
>> BrailleLabeler
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>> 
>>> Well, I've received the electronic braille labeler from ProxTalker, and 
>>> here is what I think of this gadget.
>>> Perhaps I'll tell you what I like about it first.
>>> 
>>> It makes beautiful braille.  The dots are well prominent.  I like the way 
>>> they feel when reading.  And since metal pins are used for the embossing, 
>>> duration should be much longer than plastic pins.
>>> 
>>> The weight isn't too bad.  Probably in the neighborhood of a Pac Mate.
>>> 
>>> I like the "done" beep the unit issues when it is finished embossing.  I 
>>> also like the fact that the unit will emit a series of beeps if it is 
>>> turned on accidentally when in a backpack.  I had this happen to me once. 
>>> It took me a couple of minutes to realize where the beeps were coming 
>>> from.  Since the power button is a toggle switch, the unit can be turned 
>>> on rather easily.
>>> 
>>> Now since I didn't purchase the qwerty keyboard the company offers, I 
>>> don't know how it performs when using that peripheral.  But I assume the 
>>> result wouldn't be any different.
>>> Now what I don't like about the electronic labeler.
>>> 
>>> The shape.  I find the kidney shape rather odd.  I expected it to be 
>>> rectangular.  Even oblong would have been fine.  But kidney?  Even the 
>>> lady that took my order said she was taken aback when she saw the shape 
>>> for the first time.
>>> 
>>> The speed.  It is surprisingly slow.  I thought it would be faster than 
>>> what it is.  When I brailled a label with my granddude's name on it, it 
>>> took about 5 seconds to finish the 3 letters I wrote!  To reiterate what I 
>>> said above.  I don't think a qwerty keyboard would speed up the 
>>> performance.  And speaking of the qwerty keyboard.  I was disappointed 
>>> that a micro USB adaptor wasn't included.  But I guess they get a 
>>> percentage from Dell for the sale of the qwerty keyboard they offer.
>>> 
>>> They say a carrying case can be used.  However, no such case exist for the 
>>> labeler.  I was told there is one in development.  Availability is to be 
>>> announced.
>>> 
>>> There are 2 hooks for a neck strap, which the company does not offer 
>>> either.
>>> 
>>> Although the unit can run on ac power, the ac adaptor is not included in 
>>> the package.
>>> 
>>> I found it queer that the unit has an audio jack installed.  I asked why, 
>>> and I was told that other features were under consideration during the 
>>> production.  But nothing never came to fruition.
>>> [My assumption is, an MP3 player was one feature.  I would have suggested 
>>> a microphone jack for speech input.]
>>> 
>>> I assume, since there weren't any braille or audio instructions for the 
>>> unit, this was geared more for a non-braille reader/user.  The manual has 
>>> a chart showing how to make braille letters.
>>> 
>>> Overall, I like the labeler.  I don't have to worry about label 
>>> imperfections.  However, I feel, that for $599 ac and USB adaptors should 
>>> have been included.  I also think a lock button would have been nice to 
>>> prevent accidental activations.  One may not hear the beep if one is in a 
>>> noisy environment.  I remove one battery when it is in my backpack.
>>> Another thing about the price.  At last check, a brailler cost about $200 
>>> more than this labeler.  but that's technology.
>>> 
>>> So that's it.  I have nothing more to say.  I do use it at work.  That's 
>>> what I got it for anyway.
>>> 
>>> Vince
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