[Electronics-talk] [EXTERNAL] Re: getting your drinks at fastfood places

Wed Jul 1 00:34:44 UTC 2015

Hi. The best approach, for the time being, is taking it to one of the
retailers. This is a machine that was in the works for several years, not
some fly-by-night idea. 
I live in California. We will start here and go from there.
bb

-----Original Message-----
From: Electronics-talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of Mark J. Cadigan via Electronics-talk
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 1:32 PM
To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
Cc: Mark J. Cadigan 
Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] [EXTERNAL] Re: getting your drinks at
fastfood places

How specifically do you plan on going after the vendors? Class actions town?
If so in what states are you planning on filing I know for a fact that
California Massachusetts in Colorado have some pretty progressive disability
rights laws

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> On Jun 29, 2015, at 3:20 PM, Brett Boyer via Electronics-talk
<electronics-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> I have already begun this process.
> I'll keep you guys posted if you'd like.
> bb
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Electronics-talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of Baracco, Andrew W via Electronics-talk
> Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 11:01 AM
> To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
> Cc: Baracco, Andrew W
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] [EXTERNAL] Re: getting your drinks at 
> fastfood places
> 
> We could take the same approach as we did with ATMs and go after the 
> retailers, as opposed to the manufacturers of the equipment. With the 
> ATMs it was much more productive to go after the banks than it was to 
> try to go after the manufacturers.
> 
> Andy
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Electronics-talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of Fred Wurtzel via Electronics-talk
> Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2015 12:51 PM
> To: 'Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances'
> Cc: Fred Wurtzel
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Electronics-talk] getting your drinks at 
> fastfood places
> 
> Hello Brett,
> 
> 
> 
> I totally agree with you.  I am very annoyed about this.  It is so 
> thoughtless on the parts of the manufacturers and purchasers of this 
> equipment.  I am pasting in the official complaint form from the 
> ADA.GOV web page.  I think everyone who cares about this ought to 
> submit 1 of these complaints.  Sooner or later, after DOJ gets these 
> from all over the country they will take action against either the 
> fast-food places or the manufacturers or both.
> 
> 
> 
> As you can see, the form is very simple.  There is a text field for a
> 4000 word statement of the problem.  It can be shorter, of course.  I 
> think it is best to go to the website to complete the form, but this 
> copy, below, will show you how simple it really is.
> 
> 
> 
> Warmest Regards,
> 
> 
> 
> Fred
> 
> Americans with Disabilities Act Discrimination Complaint Form
> 
> Please complete this form. Fields marked with an asterisk (*) are
required.
> If you wish to send attachments, you may do so after submitting this form.
> You will receive a response email after you have submitted this form 
> that will contain a complaint reference number and instructions on how 
> you may send attachments.
> 
> Top of Form
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> Person filling out this form
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> has discriminated
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> Have efforts been made to resolve this complaint through the internal 
> grievance procedure of the government, organization, institution or 
> business? * YesNo
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Electronics-talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of Brett Boyer via Electronics-talk
> Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 6:00 PM
> To: 'Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances'
> Cc: Brett Boyer
> Subject: [Electronics-talk] getting your drinks at fastfood places
> 
> 
> 
> Hey guys. I don't know how many of you have seen these new 
> touch-screen drink machines.
> 
> 
> 
> These are the machines that are completely flat screen, and have pages 
> and pages of drinks and/or flavors to make your own combinations.
> 
> 
> 
> They are very cool but I haven not been able to find a way for blind 
> peple to access them independently. I am pretty pissed that I can't 
> get up and get my own drink anymore without having a sighted person or 
> an employee waste time by helping me scroll through pages of flavors just
to get a drink!
> 
> 
> 
> Anyone have any ideas about this or anything we could do to get these 
> machines accessible?
> 
> 
> 
> I hope this isn't off topic
> 
> 
> 
> bb
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