[Electronics-talk] [EXTERNAL] getting your drinks at fastfood places

Mon Jun 29 22:15:10 UTC 2015

Hi,

Let's see if your line gets taken out of context and you get blasted like I
did several years ago for mentioning kool-aid!
Bryan

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Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 12:51 PM
To: Charlotte via Electronics-talk
Cc: Jim Barbour
Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] [EXTERNAL] getting your drinks at fastfood
places

So, I'm going to go into full on NFB mode for a moment.  I'm hoping
everyone will stick around for it, thought.

I highly recommend reading "The Nature of Independence"

About 20 years ago, Kenneth Jernigan gave a speech called "The Nature of
Independence"

I know that many of you will avoid this speech, because it's just more
kool-ade you don't want to drink.

However, this speech does a great job of talking about independence. Below
are links to HTML and MP3 versions of the speech, recorded by Dr. Jernigan.

Finally, in case you're wondering, what does this speech have to do with
this thread?

Basically, it argues rather forcefully that there's no sacrificing of your
independence in asking for  help with the tablet, drink machine, or any
other task that requires vision.  

Staying home, not trying new things, avoid the restaurant, etc. are
definitely things that sacrifice your independence.

If you find, or if we legislate, a blind friendly way to use the tablets or
the drink machines; then more power to us.  We've made our lives more
convenient and less stressful.  But please, let's not forget what
independence really means.

I hope you enjoy the speech.

audio       https://nfb.org/Images/nfb/Publications/convent/addres93.htm
html (text)
https://nfb.org/Images/nfb/Audio/BanqSpeech/The_Nature_of_Independence.mp3

Take Care,

Jim

On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 12:30:35PM -0500, Charlotte via Electronics-talk
wrote:
> I think for me it's more of an independence issue than i is a security
> issue. It's just one more myriad thing that we have to rely on someone
else
> to do for us. Don't we have enough of those already? I don't live 24/7
with
> sighted people around me and I try to be as independent as I can be. It's
> just disappinting not to see our policymakers not care about people with
> disabilities, blind or otherwise.
> Charlotte
> 
> 
> On 6/29/2015 12:22 PM, Mike Freeman via Electronics-talk wrote:
> >Why? The waiter/waitress is gonna know soon enough!
> >
> >Mike
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Electronics-talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> >Behalf Of Baracco, Andrew W via Electronics-talk
> >Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 9:53 AM
> >To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
> >Cc: Baracco, Andrew W
> >Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] [EXTERNAL] getting your drinks at
fastfood
> >places
> >
> >McDonald's has a similar screen that allows you to build your own
> >burger. The staff have been great about helping me with it, but I would
> >prefer to do it myself. Also, Applebee's has a touch screen tablet at
> >each table that allows you to make menu selections, play games, and to
> >pay your bill by swiping your card. It is also inaccessible, and now you
> >have to use it to pay your bill. Again, the wait staff have been
> >helpful, but I do not like telling the waiter how much I plan to tip.
> >
> >Andy
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Electronics-talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> >Behalf Of Brett Boyer via Electronics-talk
> >Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 3:00 PM
> >To: 'Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances'
> >Cc: Brett Boyer
> >Subject: [EXTERNAL] [Electronics-talk] getting your drinks at fastfood
> >places
> >
> >Hey guys. I don't know how many of you have seen these new touch-screen
> >drink machines.
> >
> >These are the machines that are completely flat screen, and have pages
> >and pages of drinks and/or flavors to make your own combinations.
> >
> >They are very cool but I haven not been able to find a way for blind
> >peple to access them independently. I am pretty pissed that I can't get
> >up and get my own drink anymore without having a sighted person or an
> >employee waste time by helping me scroll through pages of flavors just
> >to get a drink!
> >
> >Anyone have any ideas about this or anything we could do to get these
> >machines accessible?
> >
> >I hope this isn't off topic
> >
> >bb
> >
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