[Electronics-talk] My brailled ATM cards are here

Gerald Levy bwaylimited at verizon.net
Sat May 9 18:07:59 UTC 2015


I can't speak for KNFB reader, but I have tried nine ways to Sunday to read 
the security code with Open Book without success.

Gerald


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Barb O'Connor via Electronics-talk" <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances" 
<electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: "Barb O'Connor" <broconnor1972 at comcast.net>
Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2015 1:34 PM
Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] My brailled ATM cards are here


> Will the KNFBReader read that number? I don't have it so am curious. I, 
> too, am fortunate to have friends and family that I can trust so I don't 
> think too much about that. When I get my new card, I take a 4 by 6 index 
> card, write down the name of credit card, account number, expiration date, 
> the all-important security code and, last, the customer service number. 
> I've just gotten so used to doing this that I don't even think twice about 
> it. The one thing I don't like about not having a braille card is that if 
> I'm shopping by myself, I have to ask someone else to get the card I want 
> out of my wallet. I usually try to remember to do that before I leave the 
> house and put it where I can locate it without difficulty but, sometimes I 
> do forget.
>
> Barb
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: Christopher Chaltain via Electronics-talk
>  To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
>  Cc: Christopher Chaltain
>  Sent: Friday, May 08, 2015 7:31 PM
>  Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] My brailled ATM cards are here
>
>
>  Well, I think the blind have bigger issues then getting the security
>  code printed in braille on people's credit cards. I'm not saying this
>  isn't an important issue, but I don't think it should be the number one
>  issue being addressed by the blindness advocacy organizations. I'm also
>  not as defeatist as Gerald and just assume that the advocacy groups
>  haven't and aren't considering what to do about this issue. You may not
>  like the answer, but a solution like the KNFB Reader does tell me that
>  the advocacy groups are at least attempting something to address this
>  and other related issues. Let's be honest, even if the advocacy groups
>  were publicly addressing this issue, Gerald would be telling us how the
>  credit card companies don't care, won't do anything anyway and all of
>  the laws to force them to address this issue are too weak. Gerald always
>  has a reason why trying to change something and making something better
>  for someone else is a waste of time. I always find it ironic how much
>  negativity and selfishness is found on this NFB sponsored list.
>
>  On 05/08/2015 03:52 PM, cheez via Electronics-talk wrote:
>  > Gerald, when I had my brailled cards, I thought we had at least one
>  > barrier licked.  But it seems they found the brailled cards' production
>  > too costly.
>  > The whole thing makes no sense to me at all.  And apparently the
>  > blindness advocacy groups don't care about those that don't have a KNFB
>  > Reader or a trusted sighted person--like Jim Barbour stated in his 
> posting.
>  > So come down off your mountain Jim and get in touch with reality.  Some
>  > aren't as fortune as others.  I don't have the KNFB Reader as of yet.
>  > Hope that helps you understand the problem here.
>  > Vince
>  >
>  > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerald Levy via Electronics-talk"
>  > <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>  > To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
>  > <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>  > Cc: "Gerald Levy" <bwaylimited at verizon.net>
>  > Sent: Friday, May 08, 2015 12:41 PM
>  > Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] My brailled ATM cards are here
>  >
>  >
>  >>
>  >> Yes, the inability to read the security code without having a sighted
>  >> person physically pick up the card and read it is a big problem.  What
>  >> are the blindness advocacy groups doing to address this issue?
>  >> Nothing, as usual.
>  >>
>  >> Gerald
>  >>
>  >>
>  >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barb O'Connor via
>  >> Electronics-talk" <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>  >> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
>  >> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>  >> Cc: "Barb O'Connor" <broconnor1972 at comcast.net>
>  >> Sent: Friday, May 08, 2015 3:32 PM
>  >> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] My brailled ATM cards are here
>  >>
>  >>
>  >>> So, how do you get that all-important security number then?  You'll
>  >>> once again have to wait till someone sighted whom you trust is
>  >>> available to help you as the credit card companies or banks won't
>  >>> help you at all.  It would have been nice if they would have added
>  >>> that, too.
>  >>>
>  >>> Barb
>  >>>  ----- Original Message -----  From: Diane Vlasoff via 
> Electronics-talk
>  >>>  To: electronics talk n f b list serve
>  >>>  Cc: Diane Vlasoff
>  >>>  Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2015 4:54 PM
>  >>>  Subject: [Electronics-talk] My brailled ATM cards are here
>  >>>
>  >>>
>  >>>  I told you all I would keep you up-to-date. My ATM card in braille
>  >>> arrived today!
>  >>>  They have my account number my name and the expiration date on them
>  >>> it doesn't happen. It doesn't have the security number on the back
>  >>> ground unfortunately but this is great! Also please excuse any odd
>  >>> things in this message I'm using Siri.
>  >>>
>  >>>  Diane Vlasoff
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