[Electronics-talk] My brailled ATM cards are here

Drew Hunthausen dhunthausen at gmail.com
Sat May 9 22:50:53 UTC 2015 

Vince,
I had mentioned having sighted help so you don't put a label over the
magnetic strip only because I had also mentioned gift cards which often
don't have any tacktile markings to note which side is front and which is
the back. I only label my cards with the name of the specific card as I put
all the other info on my note taker that I can refer to when making an on
line purchase. When I am at a store I do not need the extra info.

-----Original Message-----
From: Electronics-talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
Behalf Of cheez via Electronics-talk
Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2015 1:42 PM
To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
Cc: cheez
Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] My brailled ATM cards are here

Why not place the dyno tape above the number on the front of the card, Drew?
The backs of most cards contain the signature strip, the magnetic strip and
a phone number to call in case you lose or damage the card.
The 7-digits that appear are the last 4 of the account, and the last 3 is
the security code.
Vince

----- Original Message -----
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Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] My brailled ATM cards are here


> Barb,
> What I do for my credit cards as well as i.d. cards or gift cards is to
> Braille a label on the labeling tape you can purchase from any of the 
> blind
> supply stores on line. I usually have a friend or family member help me 
> with
> this so I don't put the label over the magnetic strip or some important
> information.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Electronics-talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of Barb O'Connor via Electronics-talk
> Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2015 10:34 AM
> To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
> Cc: Barb O'Connor
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] My brailled ATM cards are here
>
> Will the KNFBReader read that number? I don't have it so am curious. I, 
> too,
> am fortunate to have friends and family that I can trust so I don't think
> too much about that. When I get my new card, I take a 4 by 6 index card,
> write down the name of credit card, account number, expiration date, the
> all-important security code and, last, the customer service number. I've
> just gotten so used to doing this that I don't even think twice about it.
> The one thing I don't like about not having a braille card is that if I'm
> shopping by myself, I have to ask someone else to get the card I want out 
> of
> my wallet. I usually try to remember to do that before I leave the house 
> and
> put it where I can locate it without difficulty but, sometimes I do 
> forget.
>
> Barb
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: Christopher Chaltain via Electronics-talk
>  To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
>  Cc: Christopher Chaltain
>  Sent: Friday, May 08, 2015 7:31 PM
>  Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] My brailled ATM cards are here
>
>
>  Well, I think the blind have bigger issues then getting the security
>  code printed in braille on people's credit cards. I'm not saying this
>  isn't an important issue, but I don't think it should be the number one
>  issue being addressed by the blindness advocacy organizations. I'm also
>  not as defeatist as Gerald and just assume that the advocacy groups
>  haven't and aren't considering what to do about this issue. You may not
>  like the answer, but a solution like the KNFB Reader does tell me that
>  the advocacy groups are at least attempting something to address this
>  and other related issues. Let's be honest, even if the advocacy groups
>  were publicly addressing this issue, Gerald would be telling us how the
>  credit card companies don't care, won't do anything anyway and all of
>  the laws to force them to address this issue are too weak. Gerald always
>  has a reason why trying to change something and making something better
>  for someone else is a waste of time. I always find it ironic how much
>  negativity and selfishness is found on this NFB sponsored list.
>
>  On 05/08/2015 03:52 PM, cheez via Electronics-talk wrote:
>  > Gerald, when I had my brailled cards, I thought we had at least one
>  > barrier licked.  But it seems they found the brailled cards' production
>  > too costly.
>  > The whole thing makes no sense to me at all.  And apparently the
>  > blindness advocacy groups don't care about those that don't have a KNFB
>  > Reader or a trusted sighted person--like Jim Barbour stated in his
> posting.
>  > So come down off your mountain Jim and get in touch with reality.  Some
>  > aren't as fortune as others.  I don't have the KNFB Reader as of yet.
>  > Hope that helps you understand the problem here.
>  > Vince
>  >
>  > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerald Levy via Electronics-talk"
>  > <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>  > To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
>  > <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>  > Cc: "Gerald Levy" <bwaylimited at verizon.net>
>  > Sent: Friday, May 08, 2015 12:41 PM
>  > Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] My brailled ATM cards are here
>  >
>  >
>  >>
>  >> Yes, the inability to read the security code without having a sighted
>  >> person physically pick up the card and read it is a big problem.  What
>  >> are the blindness advocacy groups doing to address this issue?
>  >> Nothing, as usual.
>  >>
>  >> Gerald
>  >>
>  >>
>  >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barb O'Connor via
>  >> Electronics-talk" <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>  >> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
>  >> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>  >> Cc: "Barb O'Connor" <broconnor1972 at comcast.net>
>  >> Sent: Friday, May 08, 2015 3:32 PM
>  >> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] My brailled ATM cards are here
>  >>
>  >>
>  >>> So, how do you get that all-important security number then?  You'll
>  >>> once again have to wait till someone sighted whom you trust is
>  >>> available to help you as the credit card companies or banks won't
>  >>> help you at all.  It would have been nice if they would have added
>  >>> that, too.
>  >>>
>  >>> Barb
>  >>>  ----- Original Message -----  From: Diane Vlasoff via
> Electronics-talk
>  >>>  To: electronics talk n f b list serve
>  >>>  Cc: Diane Vlasoff
>  >>>  Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2015 4:54 PM
>  >>>  Subject: [Electronics-talk] My brailled ATM cards are here
>  >>>
>  >>>
>  >>>  I told you all I would keep you up-to-date. My ATM card in braille
>  >>> arrived today!
>  >>>  They have my account number my name and the expiration date on them
>  >>> it doesn't happen. It doesn't have the security number on the back
>  >>> ground unfortunately but this is great! Also please excuse any odd
>  >>> things in this message I'm using Siri.
>  >>>
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