[Electronics-talk] My brailled ATM cards are here

cheez cheez at cox.net
Sat May 9 23:24:26 UTC 2015 

My mistake.  I forgot about gift cards.  I have a bus pass that's smooth on 
both sides.  So I stuck a round label on one side to know which side has the 
strip.
Vince

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Drew Hunthausen via Electronics-talk" <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
To: "'Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances'" 
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Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2015 3:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] My brailled ATM cards are here


> Vince,
> I had mentioned having sighted help so you don't put a label over the
> magnetic strip only because I had also mentioned gift cards which often
> don't have any tacktile markings to note which side is front and which is
> the back. I only label my cards with the name of the specific card as I 
> put
> all the other info on my note taker that I can refer to when making an on
> line purchase. When I am at a store I do not need the extra info.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Electronics-talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> Behalf Of cheez via Electronics-talk
> Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2015 1:42 PM
> To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
> Cc: cheez
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] My brailled ATM cards are here
>
> Why not place the dyno tape above the number on the front of the card, 
> Drew?
> The backs of most cards contain the signature strip, the magnetic strip 
> and
> a phone number to call in case you lose or damage the card.
> The 7-digits that appear are the last 4 of the account, and the last 3 is
> the security code.
> Vince
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Drew Hunthausen via Electronics-talk" <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> To: "'Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances'"
> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: "Drew Hunthausen" <dhunthausen at gmail.com>
> Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2015 11:18 AM
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] My brailled ATM cards are here
>
>
>> Barb,
>> What I do for my credit cards as well as i.d. cards or gift cards is to
>> Braille a label on the labeling tape you can purchase from any of the
>> blind
>> supply stores on line. I usually have a friend or family member help me
>> with
>> this so I don't put the label over the magnetic strip or some important
>> information.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Electronics-talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Barb O'Connor via Electronics-talk
>> Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2015 10:34 AM
>> To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
>> Cc: Barb O'Connor
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] My brailled ATM cards are here
>>
>> Will the KNFBReader read that number? I don't have it so am curious. I,
>> too,
>> am fortunate to have friends and family that I can trust so I don't think
>> too much about that. When I get my new card, I take a 4 by 6 index card,
>> write down the name of credit card, account number, expiration date, the
>> all-important security code and, last, the customer service number. I've
>> just gotten so used to doing this that I don't even think twice about it.
>> The one thing I don't like about not having a braille card is that if I'm
>> shopping by myself, I have to ask someone else to get the card I want out
>> of
>> my wallet. I usually try to remember to do that before I leave the house
>> and
>> put it where I can locate it without difficulty but, sometimes I do
>> forget.
>>
>> Barb
>>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>>  From: Christopher Chaltain via Electronics-talk
>>  To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
>>  Cc: Christopher Chaltain
>>  Sent: Friday, May 08, 2015 7:31 PM
>>  Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] My brailled ATM cards are here
>>
>>
>>  Well, I think the blind have bigger issues then getting the security
>>  code printed in braille on people's credit cards. I'm not saying this
>>  isn't an important issue, but I don't think it should be the number one
>>  issue being addressed by the blindness advocacy organizations. I'm also
>>  not as defeatist as Gerald and just assume that the advocacy groups
>>  haven't and aren't considering what to do about this issue. You may not
>>  like the answer, but a solution like the KNFB Reader does tell me that
>>  the advocacy groups are at least attempting something to address this
>>  and other related issues. Let's be honest, even if the advocacy groups
>>  were publicly addressing this issue, Gerald would be telling us how the
>>  credit card companies don't care, won't do anything anyway and all of
>>  the laws to force them to address this issue are too weak. Gerald always
>>  has a reason why trying to change something and making something better
>>  for someone else is a waste of time. I always find it ironic how much
>>  negativity and selfishness is found on this NFB sponsored list.
>>
>>  On 05/08/2015 03:52 PM, cheez via Electronics-talk wrote:
>>  > Gerald, when I had my brailled cards, I thought we had at least one
>>  > barrier licked.  But it seems they found the brailled cards' 
>> production
>>  > too costly.
>>  > The whole thing makes no sense to me at all.  And apparently the
>>  > blindness advocacy groups don't care about those that don't have a 
>> KNFB
>>  > Reader or a trusted sighted person--like Jim Barbour stated in his
>> posting.
>>  > So come down off your mountain Jim and get in touch with reality. 
>> Some
>>  > aren't as fortune as others.  I don't have the KNFB Reader as of yet.
>>  > Hope that helps you understand the problem here.
>>  > Vince
>>  >
>>  > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerald Levy via Electronics-talk"
>>  > <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>  > To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
>>  > <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>  > Cc: "Gerald Levy" <bwaylimited at verizon.net>
>>  > Sent: Friday, May 08, 2015 12:41 PM
>>  > Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] My brailled ATM cards are here
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >>
>>  >> Yes, the inability to read the security code without having a sighted
>>  >> person physically pick up the card and read it is a big problem. 
>> What
>>  >> are the blindness advocacy groups doing to address this issue?
>>  >> Nothing, as usual.
>>  >>
>>  >> Gerald
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barb O'Connor via
>>  >> Electronics-talk" <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>  >> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
>>  >> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>  >> Cc: "Barb O'Connor" <broconnor1972 at comcast.net>
>>  >> Sent: Friday, May 08, 2015 3:32 PM
>>  >> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] My brailled ATM cards are here
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  >>> So, how do you get that all-important security number then?  You'll
>>  >>> once again have to wait till someone sighted whom you trust is
>>  >>> available to help you as the credit card companies or banks won't
>>  >>> help you at all.  It would have been nice if they would have added
>>  >>> that, too.
>>  >>>
>>  >>> Barb
>>  >>>  ----- Original Message -----  From: Diane Vlasoff via
>> Electronics-talk
>>  >>>  To: electronics talk n f b list serve
>>  >>>  Cc: Diane Vlasoff
>>  >>>  Sent: Thursday, May 07, 2015 4:54 PM
>>  >>>  Subject: [Electronics-talk] My brailled ATM cards are here
>>  >>>
>>  >>>
>>  >>>  I told you all I would keep you up-to-date. My ATM card in braille
>>  >>> arrived today!
>>  >>>  They have my account number my name and the expiration date on them
>>  >>> it doesn't happen. It doesn't have the security number on the back
>>  >>> ground unfortunately but this is great! Also please excuse any odd
>>  >>> things in this message I'm using Siri.
>>  >>>
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