[Electronics-talk] Braille Label Maker

Thu Oct 1 04:41:46 UTC 2015

I inquired about the Jot a Dot last year. They are not being sold in the
U.S. any more. Humanware dug one up for me for $100. I did not like it, and
gave it away.

On Thursday, October 1, 2015, cheez via Electronics-talk <
electronics-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> Steve:
>
> Have you ever heard or seen the Jot-a-Dot?
> It cost about $300.  I think it would be a better tool for the newly blind
> to learn how to write braille instead of the slate and stylus.  At least
> you don't have to think backwards when you use the Jot-a-Dot.
> One can use any kind of paper, too.
>
> Vince
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Jacobson via Electronics-talk" <
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> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2015 8:59 AM
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Braille Label Maker
>
>
> In addition to these points, I would like to add that the costs of making
>> reliable mechanical devices has risen greatly.  I once saw a prototype of
>> a
>> label maker with a Perkins style keyboard that was all mechanical.  It
>> worked very nicely, but the price was not going to be much cheaper than
>> this
>> device is.  Look at the price of the Perkins Brailler itself as an
>> example,
>> and the development costs of that device have long been covered.
>>
>> I've tried a number of different label making devices over the years,
>> including that little frame you can put into a Perkins brailler.  I have
>> pretty much gone back to using a slate and stylus for labels.  This is an
>> option that is often overlooked.  Even if one is not fast at using a slate
>> and stylus, the time it takes is not that bad when you take into account
>> the
>> time one spends spinning a dial on a label gun or lining up a frame in a
>> braille writer.
>>
>> I have also found that often simply brailling on mailing labels is a good
>> alternative when the size doesn't matter too much.  Mailing labels are not
>> as durable as is labeling tape, but the braille lasts longer than you
>> might
>> think.  This works especially well when the label is only needed for a
>> month
>> or so such on a package of food.
>>
>> Therefore, there are some cheap alternatives, but the convenience of this
>> device makes it something I might consider.  I wonder what the quality of
>> the braille is?  That is one thing I like about using the slate and
>> stylus.
>> I get nicer dot quality than I did either with a labeling gun or the frame
>> for the Perkins Brailler, even though both produced reasonable braille.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Steve Jacobson
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Electronics-talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Brett Boyer via Electronics-talk
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 7:54 PM
>> To: 'Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances'
>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Brett Boyer <bboyer202 at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Braille Label Maker
>>
>> Great points!
>> Thanks
>> bb
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Electronics-talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Annette Carr via Electronics-talk
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 4:42 PM
>> To: 'Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances'
>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: Annette Carr <amcarr1 at verizon.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Braille Label Maker
>>
>> The label maker is battery operated or can be plugged in to an electronic
>> outlet.  It has a Perkins style keyboard.  The label tape is automatically
>> advanced as you write, and I believe that there is no need to advance the
>> tape prior to cutting.  Probably the biggest difference is that you can
>> plug
>> a standard computer USB keyboard into the unit to produce the braille
>> label.
>> The use of a QWERTY allows family members, teachers, employers and
>> co-workers to create labels easier and faster.
>>
>> Yes, the price does appear to be high, but the cost of research,
>> development
>> and production is high.  It is the first major change in the area of
>> braille
>> label makers in the more than 40 years that I have been aware of them.
>> They
>> are selling a product that only has the potential of being sold to a small
>> segment of the population.  In order for them to recuperate their
>> financial
>> investment in a reasonable amount of time, the price is set higher than
>> many
>> can afford.  Does anyone remember the price of refreshable braille
>> displays
>> when they first came out?  Was it something like $10,000 to $20,000 for a
>> 40
>> or 80 cell display?  Through the end of tomorrow (September 30) you can
>> purchase the Perkins Mini 24 cell refreshable braille display for less
>> than
>> $1900 including shipping.
>>
>> Annette
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Electronics-talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Mike Freeman via Electronics-talk
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 6:13 PM
>> To: 'Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances'
>> Cc: Mike Freeman
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Braille Label Maker
>>
>> It's so expensive because it has (as I understand it) a Perkins-style
>> keyboard and because it's electronic.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Electronics-talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of Star Gazer via Electronics-talk
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 10:27 AM
>> To: 'Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances'
>> Cc: Star Gazer
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Braille Label Maker
>>
>> Yes I'm curious what exactly does this
>> labeler do and why is it so expensive?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Electronics-talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>> Behalf Of lauren--- via Electronics-talk
>> Sent: Monday, September 28, 2015 11:53 PM
>> To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: lauren at catlines.com
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Braille Label Maker
>>
>> Hi, I can't believe that a LabelMaker would cost $600 or more. How in the
>> world do they justify that price?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Sep 28, 2015, at 5:42 PM, cheez via Electronics-talk
>>>
>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Sorry to hear that.
>>> Too bad we don't have more repairers out there.
>>>
>>> Vince
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pamela Dominguez via
>>> Electronics-talk"
>>>
>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>
>>> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
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>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
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>>> Cc: "Pamela Dominguez" <geodom at optonline.net>
>>> Sent: Monday, September 28, 2015 5:20 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Braille Label Maker
>>>
>>>
>>> George died in 2012.  Pam.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message----- From: cheez via Electronics-talk
>>> Sent: Monday, September 28, 2015 2:16 AM
>>> To: Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances
>>> Cc: cheez
>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-talk] Braille Label Maker
>>>
>>> I've never seen one that didn't have some of the braille contractions
>>> on
>>>
>> it.
>>
>>> What happened to George?  Does he still fix them?
>>>
>>> Vince
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pamela Dominguez via
>>> Electronics-talk"
>>>
>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>
>>> To: "Discussion of accessible electronics and appliances"
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>>> Cc: "Pamela Dominguez" <geodom at optonline.net>
>>> Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2015 12:27 PM
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>>>
>>>
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