[Electronics-Talk] Appliance accessibility

[Jude DaShiell]

After what happened with all those counterfeit hover boards and would 
have happened with them had the stream from China not been disrupted, 
racist is far too wrong and too strong a complaint to be making on 
behalf of the Chinese.  Their "legal system" could really do lots for 
their image and business if it got as effective cracking down on 
counterfeiters as it is on dissotants.

On Sun, 14 Feb 2016, Christopher Chaltain via Electronics-Talk wrote:

> Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2016 18:08:10
> From: Christopher Chaltain via Electronics-Talk <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> To: Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances
>     <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: Christopher Chaltain <chaltain at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Appliance accessibility
> 
> Well, there are reasons companies are moving away from actual tactile buttons 
> and reasons why consumers prefer touch screens. They're cheaper, more 
> flexible, less likely to fail and easier to clean. Universal access doesn't 
> equate to physical buttons. This issue also has nothing to do with Chinese 
> manufacturers. American manufacturers are also interested in making profit. I 
> wouldn't pay attention to such over simplifications , negativity and racism.
>
> On 14/02/16 13:44, cheez via Electronics-Talk wrote:
>> I don't think we'll be bringing back the good old days.  Everything
>> changes. We all just have to adapt.
>> 
>> Vince
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerald Levy via Electronics-Talk"
>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> To: "Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances"
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>> Cc: "Gerald Levy" <bwaylimited at verizon.net>
>> Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2016 11:15 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Appliance accessibility
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> I have an even better idea.  Forget all this bluetooth and Internet
>>> nonsense.  Why not make appliances with tactile buttons and switches
>>> like in the good old days?  What a concept!!  The problem is that the
>>> design and manufacture of appliances has largely been taken over by
>>> the Chinese who are more interested in making cheap products than in
>>> making them universally accessible.  And now that GE has agreed to
>>> sell its appliance business to the Chinese electronics and appliance
>>> giant, Haier,appliance accessibility is likely to get even worse.
>>> 
>>> Gerald
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message----- From: cheez via Electronics-Talk
>>> Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2016 12:06 PM
>>> To: Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances
>>> Cc: cheez
>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Appliance accessibility
>>> 
>>> Why not bypass bluetooth and make appliances accessible via the Internet.
>>> If one can communicate with a fridge using a computer or smartphone, then
>>> why not make it possible for one to set appliances the same way?
>>> Now it may sound crazy, but if one doesn't have a computer or smartphone,
>>> then they could use a landline like one can do to reset cable boxes
>>> and the
>>> like.
>>> 
>>> Vince
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tracy Carcione via
>>> Electronics-Talk" <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> To: "'Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances'"
>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
>>> Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2016 8:35 AM
>>> Subject: [Electronics-Talk] Appliance accessibility
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Many years ago now, the brilliant engineer Tim Cranmer had an idea of
>>>> how to
>>>> make appliances accessible.  We would get a law passed requiring
>>>> manufacturers to include a chip which would broadcast menu info to a
>>>> blind
>>>> person's device of choice.  Those days, it was something like a
>>>> Braille 'n
>>>> Speak.  These days, it would probably be a smart phone, with the
>>>> signal via
>>>> Bluetooth.
>>>> 
>>>> Could some version of this idea be workable today?  It wouldn't solve
>>>> the
>>>> problem of a touch screen control, as someone described for some
>>>> dishwashers, but it would help with the problem of one button
>>>> controlling
>>>> different menus and submenus, like some washers I've seen.
>>>> 
>>>> I'm not keen on my appliances being connected to the internet, but
>>>> I'm also
>>>> not happy with the struggle it can be these days to find something I can
>>>> easily use.
>>>> 
>>>> Tracy
>>>> 
>>>> 
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