[Electronics-Talk] Cable accessibility

Mon Feb 15 21:06:41 UTC 2016

I can't agree.  If you market to blind people, those of us who are visually impaired will generally come as part of the package.

Jim

On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 04:00:27PM -0500, Jude DaShiell via Electronics-Talk wrote:
> There is a huge difference between blind and visually impaired actually on
> several levels including marketing.
> 
> On Mon, 15 Feb 2016, cheez via Electronics-Talk wrote:
> 
> >Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2016 14:11:00
> >From: cheez via Electronics-Talk <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> >To: Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances
> >    <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> >Cc: cheez <cheez at cox.net>
> >Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Cable accessibility
> >
> >I think Speak to Me charges extra for those cassette instructions.  Or at
> >least that's what I've experienced in the past.
> >They also don't fully explain accessibility on some of their products.
> >I bought a cordless phone that had a talking caller-ID from them and the
> >website's description said the phone was accessible for the
> >visually-impaired.  Well, it was if you had some vision and was able to
> >read the buttons.  But it wasn't blind-friendly.  They didn't even offer
> >an instructional cassette.  I was told I'd have to contact the company
> >they got the phone from, and when I did contact that company, I was told I
> >should have bought this other model of that particular phone instead.
> >
> >Vince
> >
> >----- Original Message ----- From: "Jude DaShiell via Electronics-Talk"
> ><electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> >To: "Gerald Levy via Electronics-Talk" <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> >Cc: "Jude DaShiell" <jdashiel at panix.com>
> >Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 11:52 AM
> >Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Cable accessibility
> >
> >
> >>speaktomecatalog has audio demonstrations of products being used and
> >>some of their products like my blood pressure monitor came with a
> >>cassette tape. If I employed people in a company to sell electronics to
> >>the blind, even if a product didn't have any accessible directions, I'd
> >>see to it one of my employees made accessible directions for it on a CD
> >>and on cassette at least.  If I had services of a braille transcriber
> >>those braille directions would also be available before I ever shipped
> >>that product too.
> >>
> >>On Mon, 15 Feb 2016, Gerald Levy via Electronics-Talk wrote:
> >>
> >>>Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2016 13:14:40
> >>>From: Gerald Levy via Electronics-Talk <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> >>>To: Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances
> >>>    <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> >>>Cc: Gerald Levy <bwaylimited at verizon.net>
> >>>Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Cable accessibility
> >>>
> >>>At least some blindness products merchants like Future Aids post
> >>>simplified product instructions on their web site so that you can read
> >>>them before you buy a particular product.
> >>>
> >>>Gerald
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>-----Original Message----- From: Rob Kaiser via Electronics-Talk
> >>>Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 1:03 PM
> >>>To: 'Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances'
> >>>Cc: Rob Kaiser
> >>>Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Cable accessibility
> >>>
> >>>I can't believe accessible companies would do that until I got my talking
> >>>blood pressure machine from Maxi aides. They sent me a print instruction
> >>>manual. I called them & was told that they didn't have a Braille
> >>>instruction
> >>>book.
> >>>
> >>>Rob Kaiser
> >>>Email;
> >>>rcubfank at sbcglobal.net
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>From: Electronics-Talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> >>>Behalf Of cheez via Electronics-Talk
> >>>Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 9:47 AM
> >>>To: Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances
> >>><electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> >>>Cc: cheez <cheez at cox.net>
> >>>Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Cable accessibility
> >>>
> >>>That makes sense, Gerald.  Just like companies that sell products for the
> >>>blind and visually-impaired only sending printed instructions for the
> >>>item.
> >>>
> >>>Vince
> >>>
> >>>----- Original Message -----
> >>>From: "Gerald Levy via Electronics-Talk" <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> >>>To: "Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances"
> >>><electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> >>>Cc: "Gerald Levy" <bwaylimited at verizon.net>
> >>>Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 10:31 AM
> >>>Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Cable accessibility
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>Time Warner's idea of accessibility is to offer large-button remote
> >>>>control units to visually impaired customers on request.  Isn't that
> >>>>swell
> >>>
> >>>>of them?
> >>>>
> >>>>Gerald
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>-----Original Message----- From: Merv Keck via Electronics-Talk
> >>>>Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 12:02 PM
> >>>>To: 'Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances'
> >>>>Cc: Merv Keck
> >>>>Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Cable accessibility
> >>>>
> >>>>Hi,
> >>>>I have Brighthouse. Their idea of accessibility is if you are blind you
> >>>>can
> >>>>call them and they will read your bill over the phone for you. Laughs!
> >>>>Seriously that is what their web site actually says under accessibility.
> >>>>That and they have wheelchair ramps at the bill paying sites.
> >>>>I gave up the DVR because their iPhone app will allow me to set up the
> >>>>recording of a program but once that program was recorded I had no way of
> >>>>accessing the recording on either the DVR or the iPhone. So I might have
> >>>>20
> >>>>programs on the DVR but the only way I could find which one I was looking
> >>>>for was to start each program until I found what I was looking for.
> >>>>Obviously in a TV series that didn't work for viewing a series in order.
> >>>>So
> >>>>I decided to save the money and get a standard box.
> >>>>I have a sixty inch HDTV but I never watch it because it is too much of a
> >>>>pain trying to find something and I can no longer see the screen as of
> >>>>about
> >>>>14 months ago now anyway.
> >>>>
> >>>>-----Original Message-----
> >>>>From: Electronics-Talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
> >>>>Behalf Of Brent Harding via Electronics-Talk
> >>>>Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 11:46 AM
> >>>>To: Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances
> >>>><electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> >>>>Cc: Brent Harding <brent at hostany.net>
> >>>>Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Cable accessibility
> >>>>
> >>>>I wish Time Warner would come out with something as well. I would really
> >>>>like to have a DVR that I can control. I'm not in a part of town where
> >>>>Uverse is available like I was when it first came out in other parts of
> >>>>town. I had to remember a little bit of menu options, but I could
> >>>>schedule
> >>>>the recordings online back then, but that system had a dedicated DVR
> >>>>button
> >>>>that only brought up previous recordings.
> >>>>
> >>>>----- Original Message -----
> >>>>From: "Tracy Carcione via Electronics-Talk" <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> >>>>To: "'Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances'"
> >>>><electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> >>>>Cc: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
> >>>>Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 9:05 AM
> >>>>Subject: [Electronics-Talk] Cable accessibility
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>My husband has been calling Cablevision for years to talk about
> >>>>>accessibility.  Within the last couple months, they've actually started
> >>>>>to
> >>>>>respond, and he's been talking to one of their developers about ways to
> >>>>>improve the accessibility of their website and app.  She says they will
> >>>>>have
> >>>>>significant improvements within this year.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>If we can use their app or website to do things like program the DVR,
> >>>>>that
> >>>>>would be a big improvement.  Progress is slow, but we feel like we're
> >>>>>starting to get somewhere.  My man's consistent complaining may be
> >>>>>paying
> >>>>>off.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Go thou and do likewise.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Tracy
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
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