[Electronics-Talk] Cable accessibility

Mon Feb 15 21:00:27 UTC 2016

There is a huge difference between blind and visually impaired actually 
on several levels including marketing.

On Mon, 15 Feb 2016, cheez via Electronics-Talk wrote:

> Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2016 14:11:00
> From: cheez via Electronics-Talk <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> To: Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances
>     <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: cheez <cheez at cox.net>
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Cable accessibility
> 
> I think Speak to Me charges extra for those cassette instructions.  Or at 
> least that's what I've experienced in the past.
> They also don't fully explain accessibility on some of their products.
> I bought a cordless phone that had a talking caller-ID from them and the 
> website's description said the phone was accessible for the 
> visually-impaired.  Well, it was if you had some vision and was able to read 
> the buttons.  But it wasn't blind-friendly.  They didn't even offer an 
> instructional cassette.  I was told I'd have to contact the company they got 
> the phone from, and when I did contact that company, I was told I should have 
> bought this other model of that particular phone instead.
>
> Vince
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jude DaShiell via Electronics-Talk" 
> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> To: "Gerald Levy via Electronics-Talk" <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: "Jude DaShiell" <jdashiel at panix.com>
> Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 11:52 AM
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Cable accessibility
>
>
>> speaktomecatalog has audio demonstrations of products being used and some 
>> of their products like my blood pressure monitor came with a cassette tape. 
>> If I employed people in a company to sell electronics to the blind, even if 
>> a product didn't have any accessible directions, I'd see to it one of my 
>> employees made accessible directions for it on a CD and on cassette at 
>> least.  If I had services of a braille transcriber those braille directions 
>> would also be available before I ever shipped that product too.
>> 
>> On Mon, 15 Feb 2016, Gerald Levy via Electronics-Talk wrote:
>> 
>>> Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2016 13:14:40
>>> From: Gerald Levy via Electronics-Talk <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> To: Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances
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>>> Cc: Gerald Levy <bwaylimited at verizon.net>
>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Cable accessibility
>>> 
>>> At least some blindness products merchants like Future Aids post 
>>> simplified product instructions on their web site so that you can read 
>>> them before you buy a particular product.
>>> 
>>> Gerald
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message----- From: Rob Kaiser via Electronics-Talk
>>> Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 1:03 PM
>>> To: 'Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances'
>>> Cc: Rob Kaiser
>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Cable accessibility
>>> 
>>> I can't believe accessible companies would do that until I got my talking
>>> blood pressure machine from Maxi aides. They sent me a print instruction
>>> manual. I called them & was told that they didn't have a Braille 
>>> instruction
>>> book.
>>> 
>>> Rob Kaiser
>>> Email;
>>> rcubfank at sbcglobal.net
>>> 
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>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Electronics-Talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>> Behalf Of cheez via Electronics-Talk
>>> Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 9:47 AM
>>> To: Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances
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>>> Cc: cheez <cheez at cox.net>
>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Cable accessibility
>>> 
>>> That makes sense, Gerald.  Just like companies that sell products for the
>>> blind and visually-impaired only sending printed instructions for the 
>>> item.
>>> 
>>> Vince
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Gerald Levy via Electronics-Talk" <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> To: "Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances"
>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: "Gerald Levy" <bwaylimited at verizon.net>
>>> Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 10:31 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Cable accessibility
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Time Warner's idea of accessibility is to offer large-button remote
>>>> control units to visually impaired customers on request.  Isn't that 
>>>> swell
>>> 
>>>> of them?
>>>> 
>>>> Gerald
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Merv Keck via Electronics-Talk
>>>> Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 12:02 PM
>>>> To: 'Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances'
>>>> Cc: Merv Keck
>>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Cable accessibility
>>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> I have Brighthouse. Their idea of accessibility is if you are blind you
>>>> can
>>>> call them and they will read your bill over the phone for you. Laughs!
>>>> Seriously that is what their web site actually says under accessibility.
>>>> That and they have wheelchair ramps at the bill paying sites.
>>>> I gave up the DVR because their iPhone app will allow me to set up the
>>>> recording of a program but once that program was recorded I had no way of
>>>> accessing the recording on either the DVR or the iPhone. So I might have
>>>> 20
>>>> programs on the DVR but the only way I could find which one I was looking
>>>> for was to start each program until I found what I was looking for.
>>>> Obviously in a TV series that didn't work for viewing a series in order.
>>>> So
>>>> I decided to save the money and get a standard box.
>>>> I have a sixty inch HDTV but I never watch it because it is too much of a
>>>> pain trying to find something and I can no longer see the screen as of
>>>> about
>>>> 14 months ago now anyway.
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Electronics-Talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>> Behalf Of Brent Harding via Electronics-Talk
>>>> Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 11:46 AM
>>>> To: Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances
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>>>> Cc: Brent Harding <brent at hostany.net>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Cable accessibility
>>>> 
>>>> I wish Time Warner would come out with something as well. I would really
>>>> like to have a DVR that I can control. I'm not in a part of town where
>>>> Uverse is available like I was when it first came out in other parts of
>>>> town. I had to remember a little bit of menu options, but I could 
>>>> schedule
>>>> the recordings online back then, but that system had a dedicated DVR
>>>> button
>>>> that only brought up previous recordings.
>>>> 
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Tracy Carcione via Electronics-Talk" <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> To: "'Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances'"
>>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
>>>> Sent: Monday, February 15, 2016 9:05 AM
>>>> Subject: [Electronics-Talk] Cable accessibility
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> My husband has been calling Cablevision for years to talk about
>>>>> accessibility.  Within the last couple months, they've actually started
>>>>> to
>>>>> respond, and he's been talking to one of their developers about ways to
>>>>> improve the accessibility of their website and app.  She says they will
>>>>> have
>>>>> significant improvements within this year.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If we can use their app or website to do things like program the DVR,
>>>>> that
>>>>> would be a big improvement.  Progress is slow, but we feel like we're
>>>>> starting to get somewhere.  My man's consistent complaining may be 
>>>>> paying
>>>>> off.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Go thou and do likewise.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Tracy
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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