[Electronics-Talk] Feature phones and smart phones [was "Re: LG flip phone [was "Re: Android Cellphones: Are They Worth It"]"]

Sat Mar 26 18:50:50 UTC 2016

Christopher, I hear ya about that only having to tap anywhere on the screen 
of an iPhone in order to activate a function.  I found that out the hard 
way.

Vince

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From: "Christopher Chaltain via Electronics-Talk" 
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To: "Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances" 
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Cc: "Christopher Chaltain" <chaltain at gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2016 10:43 AM
Subject: [Electronics-Talk] Feature phones and smart phones [was "Re: LG 
flip phone [was "Re: Android Cellphones: Are They Worth It"]"]

> I'm not one of those people that think blind people have to use a smart 
> phone to get an accessible phone. IMHO, as long as feature phones are 
> available to the sighted then they should be available to the blind. If a 
> sighted person doesn't need or want a smart phone then a blind person 
> should have the same choice. I try not to impose my decisions on others. I 
> don't presume to know how everyone else uses or should use their phones.
>
> That being said, I've never had a feature phone. I started using a smart 
> phone around 2002, when I got my first Nokia phone running Talks. After 
> three Nokia phones with physical keyboards, I made the jump to a touch 
> screen phone in 2012 when I got the iPhone 4S I'm still using today.
>
> I remember that first weekend I tried to setup and figure out my iPhone. I 
> was practically in tears. Even after listening to podcasts and reading 
> tutorials, I still found it incredibly frustrating. I remember the key for 
> me was when I realized that I didn't have to double tap exactly on the 
> object itself. Once I heard VoiceOver read something, I could just double 
> tap anywhere on the screen to activate the object. That was a huge turning 
> point for me that weekend.
>
> I would agree that once you master one touch screen device, you have an 
> advantage when you move to another touch screen device, but this can also 
> trip you up. I know a lot of people who try to move from a Windows machine 
> to a Linux machine or from an iPhone to an Android device, and they get 
> tripped up when things don't work the way they're used to. I don't have a 
> problem with people wanting things to be familiar when moving from device 
> to device, but if you want your Android phone to be identical to your 
> iPhone then I think you'll be disappointed, and you should probably just 
> stick with your iPhone.
>
> I too am curious about different technologies, and I'm willing to learn 
> and invest some time in experimenting with and playing with other devices. 
> That's one reason why I went out and got a Nexus 7. I wanted a tablet, but 
> I didn't want to pay the price for an iPad, and I wanted to see what 
> Android was like in case I wanted to switch my phone to an Android phone, 
> so I got a Nexus 7 running Android. As I said, there are things I prefer 
> doing on my Nexus 7 over my iPhone, and some of that is because it's a 
> tablet and some because it's running Android.
>
> As I see how I use my phone and what Android looks like versus IOS, I 
> would be more comfortable jumping to an S7 now then I would have been a 
> few years ago. Part of that is because of the advances in Talk Back, but 
> part of that is also because the areas where I see VoiceOver is superior 
> are areas that I really don't spend much time doing on the phone. 
> Hierarchic navigation in web pages is a good example. If I spent a lot of 
> time in Safari on my iPhone then I'd really miss not being able to 
> navigate by heading, table and so on, but as it turns out, I prefer using 
> apps instead of web pages, so I just don't spent that much time in Safari 
> on my iPhone, so I won't miss those features if I jump to an S7. Even 
> though I said I'd be more comfortable now jumping to an Android phone then 
> I would have been a year or so ago, I still haven't made that jump, and 
> I'm not sure if my next phone will be an Android phone or an iPhone. I'm 
> used to how my iPhone works and Apple just flat did a great job with 
> VoiceOver.
>
> On 25/03/16 22:46, Arlene via Electronics-Talk wrote:
>> Christopher, I was just thinking how crazy this has been with no change
>> of subject line for the lg thread and the android thread. I got so
>> involved in reading the messages since both threads have been
>> interesting to me, that I didn't think about changing the subject line
>> to lg phones or something like that. Unfortunately with all the
>> questions answered for me concerning my modo g from the android group I
>> just haven't gotten the knack of navigating the screen, even with all of
>> the suggestions and help, not yet anyway. All of what I just said is far
>> from a complaint, I'm going to see if I could find someone that I could
>> get together with in person to help me a little more.
>> Anyone going to  from an android to an iphone or iphone to android is
>> way ahead of someone that never used a touch screen, you would think
>> they would be curious to experiencing the other. If I ever get the knack
>> of the touch screen with my modo g, and really get use to it, that will
>> be curious me, as I would want to try the iphone out and continue to
>> learn more about the android. Not everyone is that curious though.  I've
>> listened to a number of podcasts of how too shows of both android phones
>> and iphones, and the people doing the demonstrations make it sound so
>> simple. I hope I get there one of these days. There's so much you could
>> do with these touch screen phones, as much as you could do with your own
>> desktop. Each system is different, just like  in the case of the 2
>> feature phones that I have, that I can do basically the same things with
>> both phones, but there's some very minor differences in how they both
>> work. Neither one is better than the other, just a little different.
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher Chaltain via
>> Electronics-Talk" <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> To: "Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances"
>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: "Christopher Chaltain" <chaltain at gmail.com>
>> Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 10:54 AM
>> Subject: [Electronics-Talk] LG flip phone [was "Re: Android Cellphones:
>> Are They Worth It"]
>>
>>
>>> I was going to respond with this information as well, but they aren't
>>> asking about Android phones they're talking about this LG flip phone.
>>> One of those unfortunate negative side affects when people hijack an
>>> existing thread or don't change the subject line.
>>>
>>> On 25/03/16 10:43, Jim Barbour via Electronics-Talk wrote:
>>>> Yes, you can deathly do all that with an android phone and talk back
>>>> or the screen reader from Samsung.
>>>>
>>>> Jim
>>>>
>>>> Written While on the Move
>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 25, 2016, at 8:29 AM, Carol Feazell via Electronics-Talk
>>>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Can you access your call log, contacts, previous messages and such?
>>>>> Can you
>>>>> easily enter new contacts? I have always really liked flip phones
>>>>> and at one
>>>>> time I thought LG was the best thing going, at least for my
>>>>> satisfaction.
>>>>> Right now I have the Odin VI, the simple phone and am happy with it
>>>>> other
>>>>> than I wish it had the word mode for texting but I make it work. I
>>>>> had one
>>>>> that didn't last long, though, and so I am wondering about this one.
>>>>> The
>>>>> only quirky thing I have found is that even though I have a nice
>>>>> protective
>>>>> case, if I would drop the phone in the simplest manner, I have to
>>>>> take out
>>>>> the battery and put it back in to keep the phone from going into
>>>>> emergency
>>>>> mode. Never have had that experience and I wonder why.
>>>>>
>>>>> Carol Jean
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Electronics-Talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>> Behalf Of Marsha via Electronics-Talk
>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 10:42 AM
>>>>> To: Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances
>>>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Cc: Marsha <marcatony at yahoo.com>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Android Cellphones: Are They Worth It
>>>>>
>>>>> HI
>>>>>   The model of the LG cell phone is LG450.  It is a flip phone.  It
>>>>> is 3G
>>>>> capable.  It has Bluetooth connectivity.  It is a straight phone
>>>>> keypad. It
>>>>>
>>>>> can do E-Mail, text messaging, and internet, I don't use this
>>>>> feature. Text
>>>>>
>>>>> to speech and voice commands.  It's nothing fancy but a nice little
>>>>> phone.
>>>>> I know it works on T-Mobile and Family Mobile.
>>>>>
>>>>> Marsha
>>>>>
>>>>>
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