[Electronics-Talk] Feature phones and smart phones [was"Re: purchased the LG 450, need the lg phone list subscribing directions anyone's current experience using nokia phones with mobile speaks
Arlene
arlenes71154 at earthlink.net
Mon Mar 28 13:23:34 UTC 2016
Thanks for the information about mobile speak. I remember about the period
of the time that the n 95 was new. I think it was about 9 years ago and I
remember hearing about it on the phone list we were on. I'm happy for you
that you finally got a good phone.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Pamela Dominguez via Electronics-Talk" <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
To: "Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances"
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Sent: Monday, March 28, 2016 7:38 AM
Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Feature phones and smart phones [was"Re:
purchased the LG 450, need the lg phone list subscribing directions anyone's
current experience using nokia phones with mobile speaks
>I don't really know. But just to let you know: there is no s on the end of
>speak. If you were to google that, you might not find it otherwise. I
>don't know what you will find, though, since I have not tried putting it
>into a search engine. I bought my phone from C Tech, and Chuck installed
>the Kurzweil and the mobile speak. But he had enough trouble getting me a
>working n95. I didn't know it was that old. He was listed as selling it,
>so I assumed he carried it. But he apparently was getting them on Ebay.
>This is my third one. It took him that long to get me one that didn't have
>a problem. I sent the second one to get fixed, and the place in Alabana
>that fixes cellphones told me they couldn't fix it because it was a gray
>market item. So, he had to take it back and try again. That's the phone I
>have now. He learned, through that, what a gray market item is. Something
>that is not supposed to be sold in this country. It came from China. I
>got this phone on September second of 2014, and it has been working for me
>ever since. Except for my having to change the battery. Pam.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Arlene via Electronics-Talk
> Sent: Monday, March 28, 2016 1:48 AM
> To: Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances
> Cc: Arlene
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Feature phones and smart phones [was"Re:
> purchased the LG 450, need the lg phone list subscribing directions
> anyone's current experience using nokia phones with mobile speaks
>
> That sounds great about your n95, Pam. If possible, I'd like to get the
> current mobile speaks for my n6600. I really love this phone. About 8
> years
> ago when we were running it with mobile speaks we didn't have any of the
> apps but we did want to get them.We did get it where we could go on the
> internet, which was really great to do. Whenever we get mobile speaks,
> we'll
> definitely get some of the apps now. I was able to go on the internet a
> little bith with the lg450 where it was reading the news stories. I'll
> have
> to work with it some more.Pam, which version of mobile speaks do you have
> now?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Pamela Dominguez via Electronics-Talk"
> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> To: "Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances"
> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: "Pamela Dominguez" <geodom at optonline.net>
> Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 4:38 PM
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Feature phones and smart phones [was "Re:
> purchased the LG 450, need the lg phone list subscribing directions
> anyone's
> current experience using nokia phones with mobile speaks
>
>
>>I am using my n95. I was able to get the battery for it. I have it with
>>Kurzweil and Mobile Speak. Pat Logan gave me her n82 several years ago.
>>She told me "Get it out of my house!" But I got the n95 anyway. I
>>thought it might work better. Also, the n82 is totally open, and I didn't
>>want to use an open phone for my cellphone. Pam.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Arlene via Electronics-Talk
>> Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 3:27 AM
>> To: Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances
>> Cc: Arlene
>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Feature phones and smart phones [was "Re:
>> purchased the LG 450, need the lg phone list subscribing directions
>> anyone's current experience using nokia phones with mobile speaks
>>
>> I just appreciate all this sharing of information and our experiences,
>> which
>> by someone's experience could let you know about something you didn't
>> know
>> about before, encourage you to learn and try something different that
>> you'd
>> like to learn and more. My first cell phone was the samsung r225 with
>> t-mobile, that was in 2003. Then in 2007 I got the nokia 6600 having it
>> with
>> mobile speaks. I did try talks out which I liked just as well. In looking
>> to
>> see what phone email lists they have on yahoogroups, I found there's a
>> list
>> for the 6600 in case anyone's interested. I still have my 6600. I wonder
>> if
>> anyone else here on the list is still using their nokia phones with talks
>> and or mobile speaks and how it's going.Speaking of lists, I would
>> appreciate getting the subscribing directions for the lg phones.
>> Yesterday I
>> did get the lg 450. As I said in my other message I'm going to continue
>> to
>> work with my modo g, which I gave a break too for quite a while.
>> Hopefully
>> soon enough something will click with me and I'll get the knack of the
>> touch
>> screen. It's just great with all the helpfulness that we have amoungst us
>> on
>> these lists.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Christopher Chaltain via Electronics-Talk"
>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> To: "Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances"
>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Cc: "Christopher Chaltain" <chaltain at gmail.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2016 12:43 PM
>> Subject: [Electronics-Talk] Feature phones and smart phones [was "Re: LG
>> flip phone [was "Re: Android Cellphones: Are They Worth It"]"]
>>
>>
>>> I'm not one of those people that think blind people have to use a smart
>>> phone to get an accessible phone. IMHO, as long as feature phones are
>>> available to the sighted then they should be available to the blind. If
>>> a sighted person doesn't need or want a smart phone then a blind person
>>> should have the same choice. I try not to impose my decisions on others.
>>> I don't presume to know how everyone else uses or should use their
>>> phones.
>>>
>>> That being said, I've never had a feature phone. I started using a smart
>>> phone around 2002, when I got my first Nokia phone running Talks. After
>>> three Nokia phones with physical keyboards, I made the jump to a touch
>>> screen phone in 2012 when I got the iPhone 4S I'm still using today.
>>>
>>> I remember that first weekend I tried to setup and figure out my iPhone.
>>> I was practically in tears. Even after listening to podcasts and reading
>>> tutorials, I still found it incredibly frustrating. I remember the key
>>> for me was when I realized that I didn't have to double tap exactly on
>>> the object itself. Once I heard VoiceOver read something, I could just
>>> double tap anywhere on the screen to activate the object. That was a
>>> huge turning point for me that weekend.
>>>
>>> I would agree that once you master one touch screen device, you have an
>>> advantage when you move to another touch screen device, but this can
>>> also trip you up. I know a lot of people who try to move from a Windows
>>> machine to a Linux machine or from an iPhone to an Android device, and
>>> they get tripped up when things don't work the way they're used to. I
>>> don't have a problem with people wanting things to be familiar when
>>> moving from device to device, but if you want your Android phone to be
>>> identical to your iPhone then I think you'll be disappointed, and you
>>> should probably just stick with your iPhone.
>>>
>>> I too am curious about different technologies, and I'm willing to learn
>>> and invest some time in experimenting with and playing with other
>>> devices. That's one reason why I went out and got a Nexus 7. I wanted a
>>> tablet, but I didn't want to pay the price for an iPad, and I wanted to
>>> see what Android was like in case I wanted to switch my phone to an
>>> Android phone, so I got a Nexus 7 running Android. As I said, there are
>>> things I prefer doing on my Nexus 7 over my iPhone, and some of that is
>>> because it's a tablet and some because it's running Android.
>>>
>>> As I see how I use my phone and what Android looks like versus IOS, I
>>> would be more comfortable jumping to an S7 now then I would have been a
>>> few years ago. Part of that is because of the advances in Talk Back, but
>>> part of that is also because the areas where I see VoiceOver is superior
>>> are areas that I really don't spend much time doing on the phone.
>>> Hierarchic navigation in web pages is a good example. If I spent a lot
>>> of time in Safari on my iPhone then I'd really miss not being able to
>>> navigate by heading, table and so on, but as it turns out, I prefer
>>> using apps instead of web pages, so I just don't spent that much time in
>>> Safari on my iPhone, so I won't miss those features if I jump to an S7.
>>> Even though I said I'd be more comfortable now jumping to an Android
>>> phone then I would have been a year or so ago, I still haven't made that
>>> jump, and I'm not sure if my next phone will be an Android phone or an
>>> iPhone. I'm used to how my iPhone works and Apple just flat did a great
>>> job with VoiceOver.
>>>
>>> On 25/03/16 22:46, Arlene via Electronics-Talk wrote:
>>>> Christopher, I was just thinking how crazy this has been with no change
>>>> of subject line for the lg thread and the android thread. I got so
>>>> involved in reading the messages since both threads have been
>>>> interesting to me, that I didn't think about changing the subject line
>>>> to lg phones or something like that. Unfortunately with all the
>>>> questions answered for me concerning my modo g from the android group I
>>>> just haven't gotten the knack of navigating the screen, even with all
>>>> of
>>>> the suggestions and help, not yet anyway. All of what I just said is
>>>> far
>>>> from a complaint, I'm going to see if I could find someone that I could
>>>> get together with in person to help me a little more.
>>>> Anyone going to from an android to an iphone or iphone to android is
>>>> way ahead of someone that never used a touch screen, you would think
>>>> they would be curious to experiencing the other. If I ever get the
>>>> knack
>>>> of the touch screen with my modo g, and really get use to it, that will
>>>> be curious me, as I would want to try the iphone out and continue to
>>>> learn more about the android. Not everyone is that curious though.
>>>> I've
>>>> listened to a number of podcasts of how too shows of both android
>>>> phones
>>>> and iphones, and the people doing the demonstrations make it sound so
>>>> simple. I hope I get there one of these days. There's so much you could
>>>> do with these touch screen phones, as much as you could do with your
>>>> own
>>>> desktop. Each system is different, just like in the case of the 2
>>>> feature phones that I have, that I can do basically the same things
>>>> with
>>>> both phones, but there's some very minor differences in how they both
>>>> work. Neither one is better than the other, just a little different.
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher Chaltain via
>>>> Electronics-Talk" <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> To: "Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances"
>>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Cc: "Christopher Chaltain" <chaltain at gmail.com>
>>>> Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 10:54 AM
>>>> Subject: [Electronics-Talk] LG flip phone [was "Re: Android Cellphones:
>>>> Are They Worth It"]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I was going to respond with this information as well, but they aren't
>>>>> asking about Android phones they're talking about this LG flip phone.
>>>>> One of those unfortunate negative side affects when people hijack an
>>>>> existing thread or don't change the subject line.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 25/03/16 10:43, Jim Barbour via Electronics-Talk wrote:
>>>>>> Yes, you can deathly do all that with an android phone and talk back
>>>>>> or the screen reader from Samsung.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jim
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Written While on the Move
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mar 25, 2016, at 8:29 AM, Carol Feazell via Electronics-Talk
>>>>>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can you access your call log, contacts, previous messages and such?
>>>>>>> Can you
>>>>>>> easily enter new contacts? I have always really liked flip phones
>>>>>>> and at one
>>>>>>> time I thought LG was the best thing going, at least for my
>>>>>>> satisfaction.
>>>>>>> Right now I have the Odin VI, the simple phone and am happy with it
>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>> than I wish it had the word mode for texting but I make it work. I
>>>>>>> had one
>>>>>>> that didn't last long, though, and so I am wondering about this one.
>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>> only quirky thing I have found is that even though I have a nice
>>>>>>> protective
>>>>>>> case, if I would drop the phone in the simplest manner, I have to
>>>>>>> take out
>>>>>>> the battery and put it back in to keep the phone from going into
>>>>>>> emergency
>>>>>>> mode. Never have had that experience and I wonder why.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Carol Jean
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: Electronics-Talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>>>> On
>>>>>>> Behalf Of Marsha via Electronics-Talk
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 10:42 AM
>>>>>>> To: Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances
>>>>>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Cc: Marsha <marcatony at yahoo.com>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Android Cellphones: Are They Worth
>>>>>>> It
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> HI
>>>>>>> The model of the LG cell phone is LG450. It is a flip phone. It
>>>>>>> is 3G
>>>>>>> capable. It has Bluetooth connectivity. It is a straight phone
>>>>>>> keypad. It
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> can do E-Mail, text messaging, and internet, I don't use this
>>>>>>> feature. Text
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> to speech and voice commands. It's nothing fancy but a nice little
>>>>>>> phone.
>>>>>>> I know it works on T-Mobile and Family Mobile.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Marsha
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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