[Electronics-Talk] Feature phones and smart phones [was"Re: purchased the LG 450, need the lg phone list subscribing directions anyone's current experience using nokia phones with mobile speaks

Mon Mar 28 12:38:27 UTC 2016

I don't really know.  But just to let you know: there is no s on the end of 
speak.  If you were to google that, you might not find it otherwise.  I 
don't know what you will find, though, since I have not tried  putting it 
into a search engine.  I bought my phone from C Tech, and Chuck installed 
the Kurzweil and the mobile speak.  But he had enough trouble getting me a 
working n95.  I didn't know it was that old.  He was listed as selling it, 
so I assumed he carried it.  But he apparently was getting them on Ebay. 
This is my third one.  It took him that long to get me one that didn't have 
a problem.  I sent the second one to get fixed, and the place in Alabana 
that fixes cellphones told me they couldn't fix it because it was a gray 
market item.  So, he had to take it back and try again.  That's the phone I 
have now.  He learned, through that, what a gray market item is.  Something 
that is not supposed to be sold in this country.  It came from China.  I got 
this phone on September second of 2014, and it has been working for me ever 
since.  Except for my having to change the battery.  Pam.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Arlene via Electronics-Talk
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2016 1:48 AM
To: Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances
Cc: Arlene
Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Feature phones and smart phones [was"Re: 
purchased the LG 450, need the lg phone list subscribing directions anyone's 
current experience using nokia phones with mobile speaks

That sounds great about your n95, Pam. If possible, I'd like to get the
current mobile speaks for my n6600. I really love this phone. About 8 years
ago when we were running it with mobile speaks we didn't have any of the
apps but we did want to get them.We did get it where we could go on the
internet, which was really great to do. Whenever we get mobile speaks, we'll
definitely get some of the apps now. I was able to go on the internet a
little bith with the lg450 where it was reading the news stories. I'll have
to work with it some more.Pam, which version of mobile speaks do you have
now?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pamela Dominguez via Electronics-Talk" <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
To: "Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances"
<electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
Cc: "Pamela Dominguez" <geodom at optonline.net>
Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 4:38 PM
Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Feature phones and smart phones [was "Re:
purchased the LG 450, need the lg phone list subscribing directions anyone's
current experience using nokia phones with mobile speaks

>I am using my n95.  I was able to get the battery for it.  I have it with 
>Kurzweil and Mobile Speak.  Pat Logan gave me her n82 several years ago. 
>She told me "Get it out of my house!"  But I got the n95 anyway.  I thought 
>it might work better.  Also, the n82 is totally open, and I didn't want to 
>use an open phone for my cellphone.  Pam.
>
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Arlene via Electronics-Talk
> Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2016 3:27 AM
> To: Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances
> Cc: Arlene
> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Feature phones and smart phones [was "Re: 
> purchased the LG 450, need the lg phone list subscribing directions 
> anyone's current experience using nokia phones with mobile speaks
>
> I just appreciate all this sharing of information and our experiences, 
> which
> by someone's experience could let you know about something you didn't know
> about before, encourage you to learn and try something different that 
> you'd
> like to learn and more. My first cell phone was the samsung r225  with
> t-mobile, that was in 2003. Then in 2007 I got the nokia 6600 having it 
> with
> mobile speaks. I did try talks out which I liked just as well. In looking 
> to
> see what phone email lists they have on yahoogroups, I found there's a 
> list
> for the 6600 in case anyone's interested. I still have my 6600. I wonder 
> if
> anyone else here on the list is still using their nokia phones with talks
> and or mobile speaks and how it's going.Speaking of lists, I would
> appreciate getting the subscribing directions for the lg phones. Yesterday 
> I
> did get the lg 450. As I said in my other message I'm going to continue to
> work with my modo g, which I gave a break too for quite a while. Hopefully
> soon enough something will click with me and I'll get the knack of the 
> touch
> screen. It's just great with all the helpfulness that we have amoungst us 
> on
> these lists.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Christopher Chaltain via Electronics-Talk"
> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> To: "Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances"
> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: "Christopher Chaltain" <chaltain at gmail.com>
> Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2016 12:43 PM
> Subject: [Electronics-Talk] Feature phones and smart phones [was "Re: LG
> flip phone [was "Re: Android Cellphones: Are They Worth It"]"]
>
>
>> I'm not one of those people that think blind people have to use a smart 
>> phone to get an accessible phone. IMHO, as long as feature phones are 
>> available to the sighted then they should be available to the blind. If a 
>> sighted person doesn't need or want a smart phone then a blind person 
>> should have the same choice. I try not to impose my decisions on others. 
>> I don't presume to know how everyone else uses or should use their 
>> phones.
>>
>> That being said, I've never had a feature phone. I started using a smart 
>> phone around 2002, when I got my first Nokia phone running Talks. After 
>> three Nokia phones with physical keyboards, I made the jump to a touch 
>> screen phone in 2012 when I got the iPhone 4S I'm still using today.
>>
>> I remember that first weekend I tried to setup and figure out my iPhone. 
>> I was practically in tears. Even after listening to podcasts and reading 
>> tutorials, I still found it incredibly frustrating. I remember the key 
>> for me was when I realized that I didn't have to double tap exactly on 
>> the object itself. Once I heard VoiceOver read something, I could just 
>> double tap anywhere on the screen to activate the object. That was a huge 
>> turning point for me that weekend.
>>
>> I would agree that once you master one touch screen device, you have an 
>> advantage when you move to another touch screen device, but this can also 
>> trip you up. I know a lot of people who try to move from a Windows 
>> machine to a Linux machine or from an iPhone to an Android device, and 
>> they get tripped up when things don't work the way they're used to. I 
>> don't have a problem with people wanting things to be familiar when 
>> moving from device to device, but if you want your Android phone to be 
>> identical to your iPhone then I think you'll be disappointed, and you 
>> should probably just stick with your iPhone.
>>
>> I too am curious about different technologies, and I'm willing to learn 
>> and invest some time in experimenting with and playing with other 
>> devices. That's one reason why I went out and got a Nexus 7. I wanted a 
>> tablet, but I didn't want to pay the price for an iPad, and I wanted to 
>> see what Android was like in case I wanted to switch my phone to an 
>> Android phone, so I got a Nexus 7 running Android. As I said, there are 
>> things I prefer doing on my Nexus 7 over my iPhone, and some of that is 
>> because it's a tablet and some because it's running Android.
>>
>> As I see how I use my phone and what Android looks like versus IOS, I 
>> would be more comfortable jumping to an S7 now then I would have been a 
>> few years ago. Part of that is because of the advances in Talk Back, but 
>> part of that is also because the areas where I see VoiceOver is superior 
>> are areas that I really don't spend much time doing on the phone. 
>> Hierarchic navigation in web pages is a good example. If I spent a lot of 
>> time in Safari on my iPhone then I'd really miss not being able to 
>> navigate by heading, table and so on, but as it turns out, I prefer using 
>> apps instead of web pages, so I just don't spent that much time in Safari 
>> on my iPhone, so I won't miss those features if I jump to an S7. Even 
>> though I said I'd be more comfortable now jumping to an Android phone 
>> then I would have been a year or so ago, I still haven't made that jump, 
>> and I'm not sure if my next phone will be an Android phone or an iPhone. 
>> I'm used to how my iPhone works and Apple just flat did a great job with 
>> VoiceOver.
>>
>> On 25/03/16 22:46, Arlene via Electronics-Talk wrote:
>>> Christopher, I was just thinking how crazy this has been with no change
>>> of subject line for the lg thread and the android thread. I got so
>>> involved in reading the messages since both threads have been
>>> interesting to me, that I didn't think about changing the subject line
>>> to lg phones or something like that. Unfortunately with all the
>>> questions answered for me concerning my modo g from the android group I
>>> just haven't gotten the knack of navigating the screen, even with all of
>>> the suggestions and help, not yet anyway. All of what I just said is far
>>> from a complaint, I'm going to see if I could find someone that I could
>>> get together with in person to help me a little more.
>>> Anyone going to  from an android to an iphone or iphone to android is
>>> way ahead of someone that never used a touch screen, you would think
>>> they would be curious to experiencing the other. If I ever get the knack
>>> of the touch screen with my modo g, and really get use to it, that will
>>> be curious me, as I would want to try the iphone out and continue to
>>> learn more about the android. Not everyone is that curious though.  I've
>>> listened to a number of podcasts of how too shows of both android phones
>>> and iphones, and the people doing the demonstrations make it sound so
>>> simple. I hope I get there one of these days. There's so much you could
>>> do with these touch screen phones, as much as you could do with your own
>>> desktop. Each system is different, just like  in the case of the 2
>>> feature phones that I have, that I can do basically the same things with
>>> both phones, but there's some very minor differences in how they both
>>> work. Neither one is better than the other, just a little different.
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher Chaltain via
>>> Electronics-Talk" <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> To: "Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances"
>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: "Christopher Chaltain" <chaltain at gmail.com>
>>> Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 10:54 AM
>>> Subject: [Electronics-Talk] LG flip phone [was "Re: Android Cellphones:
>>> Are They Worth It"]
>>>
>>>
>>>> I was going to respond with this information as well, but they aren't
>>>> asking about Android phones they're talking about this LG flip phone.
>>>> One of those unfortunate negative side affects when people hijack an
>>>> existing thread or don't change the subject line.
>>>>
>>>> On 25/03/16 10:43, Jim Barbour via Electronics-Talk wrote:
>>>>> Yes, you can deathly do all that with an android phone and talk back
>>>>> or the screen reader from Samsung.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jim
>>>>>
>>>>> Written While on the Move
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mar 25, 2016, at 8:29 AM, Carol Feazell via Electronics-Talk
>>>>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can you access your call log, contacts, previous messages and such?
>>>>>> Can you
>>>>>> easily enter new contacts? I have always really liked flip phones
>>>>>> and at one
>>>>>> time I thought LG was the best thing going, at least for my
>>>>>> satisfaction.
>>>>>> Right now I have the Odin VI, the simple phone and am happy with it
>>>>>> other
>>>>>> than I wish it had the word mode for texting but I make it work. I
>>>>>> had one
>>>>>> that didn't last long, though, and so I am wondering about this one.
>>>>>> The
>>>>>> only quirky thing I have found is that even though I have a nice
>>>>>> protective
>>>>>> case, if I would drop the phone in the simplest manner, I have to
>>>>>> take out
>>>>>> the battery and put it back in to keep the phone from going into
>>>>>> emergency
>>>>>> mode. Never have had that experience and I wonder why.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Carol Jean
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Electronics-Talk [mailto:electronics-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
>>>>>> On
>>>>>> Behalf Of Marsha via Electronics-Talk
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 10:42 AM
>>>>>> To: Discussion of accessible home electronics and appliances
>>>>>> <electronics-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Cc: Marsha <marcatony at yahoo.com>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Electronics-Talk] Android Cellphones: Are They Worth It
>>>>>>
>>>>>> HI
>>>>>>   The model of the LG cell phone is LG450.  It is a flip phone.  It
>>>>>> is 3G
>>>>>> capable.  It has Bluetooth connectivity.  It is a straight phone
>>>>>> keypad. It
>>>>>>
>>>>>> can do E-Mail, text messaging, and internet, I don't use this
>>>>>> feature. Text
>>>>>>
>>>>>> to speech and voice commands.  It's nothing fancy but a nice little
>>>>>> phone.
>>>>>> I know it works on T-Mobile and Family Mobile.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Marsha
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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